'I am an Alien.'
-The Alien, from Alien (1979)
This is a lora trained on a vast 351 hand picked images from e621 of the Xenomorphs from the Alien series of movies. It was trained for 13,000 steps at 1024x1024 resolution on PonyDiffusionV6. There were so many images to sort through, that I compromised and only downloaded Xenomorph images off E621 that had a score of 80 or above (score:>80), and sorted through and removed the lower-quality images from that until I only had 351 (I started with about 950 images).
Ponydiffusion can already decently generate xenomorphs, but it often misses the more subtle details like the weird chest, their tail spikes, and their even weirder back tubes(?). It also generally helps with the head, giving more detail to the sides along with helping with head-shape consistency.
I also just wanted to say I had a lot of fun generating with this lol
NOTES:
The color of the Xenomorph can be just about any color, even unusual ones like pink (It's pretty flexible in this department)
I have not tested this extensively, but it shouldn't be able to do their "inner mouths", and it shouldn't be able to generate "Xenomorph Queen"
It slightly struggles with directly head-on shots, where the Xeno is looking directly at the viewer, although it can still do it some of the time without looking weird.
Considering Pony is already pretty alright at making Xenos, it might not be a bad idea to lower the strength of this lora, although I kept it at 1.0 for all my generations without problem.
In the dataset, I biased away from those big bimbo lips that people draw Xenomorphs with for some reason. It can still generate these fine if you prompt for them, though.
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H.R. Giger would approve and use this, I'm sure
Is there a way to reliably specify the gender of the xenomorph? Trying to pair one with a female yields random results.
EDIT 1: Specifying seems to work better with certain aspect ratios, like square :D
EDIT 2: Framing also plays a role in which character is the xenomorph (the one with a head in frame will almost always be the xenomorph).
Since the Xenomorphs technically don't have obvious "genders" (even in the films), you have to rely on the body shame and features to be more masculine, or feminine. For females, try tags like 'wide hips, 1girl, female, breasts, curvy figure/slim, etc', and for masculine you'll just have to swing it, consider muscular tags along with "1boy, male" and similar 'masculine' tags. I often view Danbooru and E621's tag wikis for relevant information. Adding genitals helps, too, but isn't always available depending on the framing of the generation.
If you are talking about having multiple characters in the subject, consider using an extension like Regional Prompting, while allows you to specify certain characters in parts of the prompt (Eg. Female Xenmorph on the top-half, and a human male on the bottom half). That's a whole can of worms to get into and learn though.
@ZoochMan Yeah sorry I meant two subjects. Since the Xenomorph can be either it does kind of require regional prompting to reliably get the desired result.
I like this a lot! Any chance of a Xenomorph Queen variant with the more pronounced head crest?
For the time being I don't have any plans, but I might revisit it in the future and experiment with a 'normal xenomorph' + 'xenomorph queen' lora, where hopefully it could do both types.
I had mostly excluded xenomorph queens because I thought it was going to mess with the normal xeno's heads, which are typically long and smooth.
Love this lora, thanks for making it!
You mentioned that it should be possible to create the xenomorphs inner mouth, but I've tried every single combination in the metadata which could produce it, but I've only achieved human tongues. Has anyone been able to generate such an image?
Bonus question; I can't for the life of me find a way for 2 xeno's to fuck. It's easy to get a female alien or male alien to have sex with a human/anthro, but 2 xenomorph seems to be impossible. If you've done it, I'd love to know how to!
You might want to re-read the notes section, I wrote shouldn't, not should :p - I was never able to get results myself, since very few people ever actually drew it, and the times people did, it wasn't very detailed or close enough for the training to really pick up on it (let alone be tagged properly...)
As for the dual-xeno question, I've never been particularly good at generating more than 1 character at once, let alone 2 identical characters having sex... I would look into the e621 wiki for tags for same-species sex, or clones, or twins, or something in that capacity. You might be able to cheat, using a sort of 'Point of View'-type prompting, where the viewer themselves are seeing from one of the Xeno's perspective? Using the Regional Prompting extension might be a very viable way to do exactly what you want, although that's a whole can of worms if you don't already know about that extension. I used that extension for the Predator/Alien photo I posted in the gallery below, it's hard to work with, but can give results. Hope this helps, and good luck!
I went ahead and tried to prompt for 2 Xenomorphs doing the do, and managed to get results:
https://civitai.com/images/13791187
I mostly just made sure to prompt for sex and xenomorphs, and no other species; I got this prompt from a random E621 post (using an extension to pull the tag info from a post), and just edited it until there were no other tags than the xeno, and then prompted hard into: "twins, intraspecies, clone, clonecest", which seems to have yielded pretty consistent results. (Note: I barely cleaned up the prompt, so it could probably be a lot shorter, but oh well)
Hope this helps!
@ZoochMan Thank you for answering, appreciate it big time!
HUGE facepalm to myself regarding their inner mouth 🤣 I was never a good reader lol. I'll play around with the results you showed me! You'll see soon enough in the image feed if I got it to work or not 😄Thanks again for this amazing lora
Good lore, but a lot of author signatures that are almost impossible to clean up with negatives
Incredible model ;) thx !
OMG this is not i seek, but that i need!
Good!
very underrated, prob the best xeno model rn
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