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    the main purpose of this lora is to give you more control of how deep the penetration is

    • imminent penetration: just the tip

    • vaginal penetration: mid way

    • deep penetration: all the way to the base

    for the data it's trained on, I went to gelbooru, searched for vaginal

    then went one by one grabbing the first hundred in order of score for each concept.

    the results are ok, but if you want to use this for animations, you'll need to combine it with a style lora to enforce consistency.

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    first version, I might merge with a style to give more consistency, but for the most part this is what I was aiming for

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    emberbyte
    Author
    Apr 23, 2023
    CivitAI

    changed the preview to a smoother animation, and added the prompts to the data set download

    KSDLTApr 24, 2023
    CivitAI

    That's a great idea, but as a result of attempts, it has been very difficult to achieve 'deep penetration'... It would be great if someone could provide a standalone version."

    emberbyte
    Author
    Apr 24, 2023

    sometimes you gotta boost the strength on deep pentration for it to take, check out my eighth sample image
    ```
    (deep penetration:1.3), 1girl, 1boy, pov, missionary, on back, spread legs, arms up, torso grab, thigh grab, grab, blonde hair, long hair, medium breasts, simple background, black background, completely nude, facing away, arms up, <lora:concept-tip-mid-base-vaginal-v1:0.7>

    Negative prompt: (worst quality, low quality:1.4),

    ENSD: 31337, Size: 512x768, Seed: 738139466, Model: AOM3, Steps: 30, Sampler: Euler a, CFG scale: 5, Clip skip: 2, Model hash: d124fc18f0
    ```
    I think I need to retag, a problem with the data set was that basically every image is tagged with some variation of vaginal and penetration, so I think that confused it a bit, but you can get around that in generating by increasing attention to the key words, like imminent, penetration, and deep penetration, or by not using vaginal in your prompt.

    alfrosJul 14, 2023

    @emberbyte if you increase attention, it begins corrupting the style/checkpoint, it's pretty unstable overall. Maybe this could be improved by training on cropped features?

    ShonanFMApr 26, 2023
    CivitAI

    could you please make a guide to train the amination lora? the training photo that give different step and each step have a stage prompt is that the key? it can make lot of amination not just nsfw,but like fight, character action,weather change? i think concept mod is and other smooth amination resist the unstable?

    emberbyte
    Author
    Apr 26, 2023· 1 reaction

    @ShonanFM

    I'll think about making a full guide, but to get you started.

    All I really do for these is grab a whole bunch of images that fit each stage, and make sure to tag them appropriately.

    What counts as appropriate is something I haven't entirely figured out yet.

    But what kinda worked for this one:


    Say you wanted to do a lora on smacking or slapping. You'd want images appropriately tagged for 'about to smack,' 'smacking,' and 'smacked'.

    You would want to remove all smack or slap related tags, other than the ones you add, so that you don't confuse the training. I typically use the tags that are on whatever booru I grab the images from, plus I run the tagger script on them, and then, I remove any tags that don't fit the images the way I want. In the smack lora case, you'd want to remove all smack related tags, then add your stage tags... the 'about to smack' 'smacking' and 'smacked' ones.

    You want each concept to be in their own folder in your img folder for training, with the count set to give them the same total reps. So say you have a hundred about to smack images, 50 smacking, and 25 smacked?
    You'd have something like

    10_about_to_smack concept

    20_smacking concept

    40_smacked concept

    That would give you a thousand total reps each, and then from there I usually run it for 20 epochs, which is a lot, but kinda necessary so that you can burn it in enough that the transitions between frames are consistent.

    Then, if you lucked out, and your smack lora turned out consistent, then you can do like I did for this for the animation.

    You would write prompts frame by frame that transition between the concepts you trained into the lora,

    something like:

    prompt 1:about to smack,...

    prompt 2:about to smack, smacking,...

    prompt 3:smacking,...

    prompt 4:smacking, smacked,...

    prompt 5:smacked,...

    Note: if there's an asymmetrical aspect, as there would be for slapping, then it's important NOT to use the flip training augmentation, instead, you need to manually flip all images so that their oriented in the same way, ie, all are slapping from right to left.

    ShonanFMApr 27, 2023

    @emberbyte the web eat my reply content so i have to retype it again. How about to converse the action words to weight number,Ex: smash:0.1, smash:0.2, ......., smash:1. Do you think it should be work better, more easy to read, and more easy to modify?

    emberbyte
    Author
    Apr 27, 2023

    @ShonanFM That is something I haven't been able to do consistently. But I think the way to do it is by having more of a certain type in with that tag. ie. if you have 10 images for deep_penetration, you might include 2 images also tagged deep_penetration that are actually mid_penetration, that way increasing penetration on deep_penetration makes it more likely to give deeper images.

    Or not? I haven't actually gotten that to work consistently. On this one for instance? It works on the deep_penetration tag, (deep_penetration:1.5) is deeper than (deep_penetration:1.0), sometimes, but it doesn't really work on any of the others.

    I had actually tried training a version on nothing but 'deep penetration' but with the repetitions set to let deep penetration's attention alone decide depth, but that didn't work at all.

    That's the main reason I transition the tags the way I do.

    ShonanFMApr 28, 2023

    @emberbyte prehaps less confussing img ,and les img better? and according to some review by community member, i dont tink aom3 is not a very suitable model for action tag. Have you consider other training model, like anylora or nai?

    emberbyte
    Author
    Apr 28, 2023

    @ShonanFM My samples are generated with AOM3, but the training is done on NAI.

    ShonanFMJun 14, 2023

    @emberbyte hi, here is a new way to train this alike lora.

    akiritoa1Apr 28, 2023
    CivitAI

    can imminent penetration be glans touching the pussy

    emberbyte
    Author
    Apr 28, 2023

    it can be, but it's little gacha, you gotta find the right seed for it.

    CreatorExMay 5, 2023· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    The compatibility of the model with other checkpoints is not very good, and the difference between different prompts is very small.

    Nesh0513May 10, 2023
    CivitAI

    I dont quite understand how it works, I used AOM3, this lora and the exact same prompt, but the image generated is deformed, could you guide me? Thanks!

    Nesh0513May 10, 2023

    Do i need to train SD with Dreambooth first?

    CappyAdamsJul 22, 2023

    Did ya try to change the LoRA weight? it might help a little. also, make sure to add something to the negative prompt (example: (low quality, worst quality:1.4), lowres, bad anatomy, (etc) )

    ThrasosMay 22, 2023
    CivitAI

    instructions unclear, how Do we actually use this? Do we use the lora with different strengths to get the different results?

    SekisaiMay 29, 2023
    depending on the trigger word you use of the 3, the penetration penetration depth of the penis changes.
    mycaleAug 26, 2023
    CivitAI

    hmm, it doesn't seem to work for me, despite the same settings. The images seem to generate without penetration despite the LORA

    blughtsSep 13, 2023
    CivitAI

    dalao!

    Racafj11Oct 31, 2023
    CivitAI

    still dont know how to use it, should I change the weight of this lora? Or change the weight of the keywords?

    JunbegunNov 2, 2023
    CivitAI

    After uploading images using Lora, Civitai automatically brought me here.
    ...I feel a profound conflict and confusion regarding the results I obtained when using this Lora feature without remembering its original purpose.

    Still, it's wonderful, an unexpected discovery.

    LORA
    SD 1.5

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    4/23/2023
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    Trigger Words:
    imminent penetration
    vaginal penetration
    deep penetration

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