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    Fursuit Head LoRA for PonyXL models.

    PonyXL does understand the concept of fursuits, but not the concept of partial fursuits or fursuit heads, and even then generation quality tends to be spotty at best.

    Lora was trained off 76 high-quality images of people wearing a variety of different species of fursuit heads in a variety of poses in OneTrainer using Prodigy at 10 epochs and 2 repeats. Masked training and heavy image prompting was used to focus predominantly on the concept of a fursuit head itself.

    Training was done on a custom model merge of a Everclear and Pony Realism.

    Dataset was composed of 50/50 real photographs and illustrations. Of that, a split of 25/75 of SFW and NSFW was used. A split of 50/50 male and female was attempted, but dataset is primarily composed of males.

    Keyword:

    furryzsuithead mask

    Negative Prompts:

    Complex Mask, Feral

    Situational Negative Prompts:

    Tail, Gloves, Shoes, Paws, Anthro

    Recommended Min-Max Weight Range:

    0.4 - 0.8

    Recommended Precise Weight Range:

    0.55 - 0.75 (Depending on prompt)

    Notes and Considerations:

    • XY Prompts were NOT generated with recommended negatives, hence the disparity in quality compared to example images

    • Lora seems to function quite well when tag is prefixed with "[Species] AND/OR [Color Fur/Scales] furryzsuithead mask", as can be seen in the example images, but adherence tends to decrease the more niche the species, and the less "standard" the facial structure (species with prominent snouts tend to work best)

    • Because "Mask" was used as the classifier for training, the colors and style associated with "masks" in the base model (typical Mexican-style face masks) can bleed over depending on prompting; this can (often) be mitigated fairly well with higher weights, color prompting, and the tag "Complex Mask" in the negative prompt

    • Whilst NSFW generations usually don't require "human" in the positive prompt, SFW generations have a propensity to generate stuffed toy animals rather than humans even with the recommended negative prompts, so adding "human" to the positive prompt is usually necessary

    • I am not particularly skilled at LoRA training, meaning the LoRA WILL alter image composition & bleed to other aspects of the image in a potentially less desirable way, though effect seems to be less prominent the lower the weighting

    • Whilst masked training helped, because training data was heavily prompted, expect various other prompt tags to be impacted to some extent

    • Because the model it was trained on was a realistic model and I don't have non-realistic models downloaded, I cannot say whether it will work well in non-realistic models, but feel free to share your results

    If you have any suggestions to mitigate the above issues either as they exist or in potential future releases, please let me know!

    OneTrainer Parameters:

    LoRA Rank:

    128

    LoRA Alpha:

    2

    Dropout Probability:

    0.01

    Optimizer:

    Prodigy

    Scheduler:

    Cosine

    Epochs:

    10

    Repeats per Epoch:

    2

    LR:

    1

    LR Cycles:

    1

    Bath + Accumulation:

    1

    Stop Training Text Encoder After:

    8 Epochs

    Stop Training Unet After:

    Never

    Noising Weight:

    -0.1

    Noising Bias:

    0.45

    Unmasked Weight + Probability:

    0.09

    MSE Strength:

    0.75

    MAE Strength:

    0.25

    Loss Weight Function:

    Debiased Estimation

    Prodigy Settings:

    Beta 1:

    0.9

    Beta 2:

    0.995

    EPS:

    1e-08

    Weight Decay:

    0.005

    Decouple:

    True

    Safeguard Warmup:

    True

    Bias Correction:

    False

    Initial D:

    1e-06

    D Coefficient:

    1

    Growth Rate:

    inf

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    Comments (12)

    averygoodusernameJun 25, 2024· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    Was this made because of my bounty? I'm not sure

    TheGreatOne321
    Author
    Jun 25, 2024

    VERY convenient timing, but no, I actually wasn't even aware of your bounty (though I'll gladly claim it lol)

    Been experimenting with making a fursuit head LoRA on and off since the SD1.5 days, but this was the only one that I felt was good enough to post

    averygoodusernameJun 25, 2024· 1 reaction

    @TheGreatOne321 LOL

    well by any means thanks for making it. You won't be able to claim my bounty because it's SDXL 1.0 and not pony, but I'll gladly tip you the buzz here anyway. Keep working on this, please! Also, I have access to a load of SFW images of females with fursuit heads, so let me know if you want them.

    4833069Jul 23, 2024
    CivitAI

    Have you considered or is this Lora capable of influencing images with people in fursuits but with the head off (either out of image or to the side)?

    Seems like you were able to train it to recognize fursuit head—I’ve messed around some but can’t get it to move the head.

    Willing to pay or offer significant bounty for this

    TheGreatOne321
    Author
    Jul 23, 2024

    Pony models seem to have a (rather rudimentary) understanding of fursuits, so what could potentially work is specifying the fursuit in the positive prompt and fursuit head in the negative prompt. Haven't tested for this specific use case but that would probably be your best bet.

    If you wanted the head to still be in frame you'd likely be forced to use either masked conditioning, controlnets or both.

    4833069Jul 23, 2024

    @TheGreatOne321 Thanks for the quick response and feedback. I'll try those out -- let me know if interested in taking on that project and potential price.

    TheGreatOne321
    Author
    Jul 23, 2024

    @kcdc200375 could potentially be interested depending on what you'd be willing to pay, though would need specific details of what you're looking for, so don't hesitate to DM

    koopa990Nov 1, 2024
    CivitAI

    This is all perfect until there is a 2nd character in the image--- the fursuiter is now incomplete.

    TheGreatOne321
    Author
    Nov 1, 2024

    This is a bit of a limit with XL/Pony models; the CLIP text encoders don't understand context with regards to prompts and tags, which usually results in blending in the case of multiple subject-specific tokens.

    This issue can be alleviated to a large extent with Attention Couple nodes that allow regional prompting. The one I personally recommend is included in the PPM nodes collection:

    https://github.com/pamparamm/ComfyUI-ppm

    koopa990Nov 1, 2024

    @TheGreatOne321 Oh that is for ComfyUI. I only use Auto1111 / Reforge.

    TheGreatOne321
    Author
    Nov 1, 2024

    @koopa990 I know A1111 has a Latent Couple add-on but last I tried it, which was admittedly quite some time ago, I found the results rather dissatisfying.

    When it comes to multi-subject generations with XL and 1.5 models it seems like Comfy is really the only UI that works decently well.

    koopa990Nov 2, 2024

    @TheGreatOne321 I once tried out Comfy... that did not turn out well as I anticipated.

    LORA
    Pony

    Details

    Downloads
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    Platform
    CivitAI
    Platform Status
    Available
    Created
    6/24/2024
    Updated
    6/20/2026
    Deleted
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    Trigger Words:
    [Color] Fur/Scales
    [Species]
    furryzsuithead mask

    Files

    XL-furryzsuithead mask.safetensors

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