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    A Colossus arise.. again..

    Deep under a mountain lives a sleeping giant, capable to eighter help humanity or create destruction...

    This SD 1.0XL-Checkpoint is capable to produce nearly everything.. Colossus is very good creating extremly realistic pictures, anime and art.

    If you like it, feel free to give me some feedback. Also if you want to support me you can do this here.

    https://ko-fi.com/afroman4peace

    Version 12C Experimental_3

    This is basically a new trained model. It uses parts of DEMONCORE Research https://tensor.art/models/750192467460212968/DEMONCORE-RESEARCH-MODEL-C2 and ArtCore. https://civarchive.com/models/556851/artcore

    It also got additional training on faces, eyes, hair and landscapes.

    This version works well on its own but truly shines in combination with DemonFlux. I've created a special workflow for it.

    https://civarchive.com/models/147720?modelVersionId=714208

    Version 10B "NeoDEMON"

    This version is a pruned FP16 version from the model down below. In my tests it performed similar. So you can save 4GB of diskspace. Note that some images can be different than the full 10.6GB model.

    Version 10B "NeoDEMON" (Experimental Trained)

    This version is a complete rebuild based on the dataset of Version 5.3. Its based on my new not yet published DEMONCORE V4 "NeoDEMON". Parts of the graphics are from my Hephaistos 3.31. This Version is better suited for realism but also it handles drawings better.

    Also it can create amazing details. I have created a special Comfy Workflow for it. Here is the link to the article. https://civarchive.com/articles/5606 The checkpoint also works well with Forge or A1111.

    Please tell me your opinion about the new checkpoint.

    Keep in mind V10 MidgardDEMON is very good too.. which got some benefits regarding creating lets say anthro creatures. So its also worth a look. Also check out my other versions like V9 Hera and so on :-)

    Have fun creating!

    Enhancer

    I highly recommend to download my enhancer.. It works well with it :-) https://ko-fi.com/s/34e553e28c The main use of it is within my workflow above.

    I have tested it also with Forge and it worked well with around 0.05- 0.2 but be aware that it can cause some problems with some samplers. Here is a image I have used it with Forge though.. https://civarchive.com/images/15029489

    Usage and Sampler

    Some advise.. Yes it can create on low steps but I recommend using about 12-16 steps with it. For the sampler.. Feel free to experiment here. I really don't recommend using Heun 2M (normal), 2M SDE (normal), 2M SDE Heun, PLMS) The other sampler should work well.

    Some tricks I want to share:

    I don't use much negatives with it. This can boost the overall quality. You can use them though to "force" a style. Like if you want to create drawing... In this case you can put in "photo, realistic". Or when you want a ultra realistic image use "illustration, drawings" in the negatives. I don't recommend embeddings. You can try it but don't blame the checkpoint if it looks bad. If something appears like text or watermarks but these things in the negatives. Also you can put in NSFW in the negatives..

    use CLIP skip 2 (or 3 in some cases)

    The standart for this model is Clip skip 2... Feel free to try other settings though.

    Here are some examples: Prompt: cinematic, a snowy mointain, a female adventurer in the foreground, dragon on mountain in the background

    CLIP Skip 1 (this is not how it should be)

    Clip Skip 2 (this shows the correct image)

    Version 10th (X) "MidgardDEMON"

    Well, I never thought to even make ten versions of this checkpoint. Here is it.. a sort of anniversary edition. Thank for all your support :-)

    Finally I managed to get rid of the most of sampler bugs.. For this I had to basically rebuilt the entire checkpoint structure new from ground up.

    I used a further delvelopment Hephaistos 3.31 as base and then I added parts from the latest MIDGARD model I created with Freek22 and DEMONCORE Research. https://civarchive.com/models/463847/midgard-thl-hybrid. I merged this with the 8 step SDXL Hyper from bytedance. https://huggingface.co/ByteDance/Hyper-SD

    The complete visuals are crafted all over again with own trained Loras I had in my archives. This process alone took about 14 hours of worktime alone... And this was just the first step of many.. I tried to recreate everything you love about Colossus. Even with that the visuals are a bit different. Tell me if you like it :-)

    So why so much effort?

    The benefits are truly outstanding.. First the images are much sharper in many situations.. Second I have now a clean canvas to work with in the future.

    Another benefit is the shocking cfg/scale ratio of this thing. I will add the full version in the training data folder..

    For sampler: I will also add a sampler image in the training data.

    The model itself works from 5 steps or less.. For the test above I used DPM++ 2S a as sampler with 16 steps.. with higher steps you can get more details some times.. Feel free to experiment with it.

    There are some exeptions from the rule:

    DON'T use: Heun, DPM++ 2M SDE, DPM++ 2M SDE HEUN, I also don't recommend using DPM++ 2M/Karras. Its way better than before..

    For a more detailed look download the training data.

    Version 9.0 "HERA"

    This version is a long time in the making.. Its based on a own trained model called "Hera" which isn't public and mixed with parts of my existing version 6.0 and my Hephaistos Lightning model. It also got my SDXL Enhancer Lora and Freek22s Furry enhancer Lora mixed in. This also a sort of restart of this series. Its less censored than my last version.. This was more like a bug in the last version. Also it works with lower steps than version 6.0

    Thanks to freek22 for your Furry Enhancer https://civarchive.com/models/310964/furry-enhancer-sdxl

    Feel free to give me some feedback about this version.

    A known bug of the model: It can't produce male organs. I know this already. Use a Lora or another model for this.

    Here is some technical stuff:

    I trained on more hand and feet images, so this should be better. Keep in mind that this is still SDXL and it got some limitations..

    Version 9 needs less steps to start working. I recommend to start from 4 steps.. Higher steps can and will still improve the image. In my test down below I tried a range from 3-16 steps.. and 1-7cfg. As you can see: with a higher step count you can run higher or even lower cfgs.

    For the working samplers go down to version 6.

    Version 6.0 EXPERIMENTAL 2

    Well.. its time for a new checkpoint. This one is a experimental one. Its highly coherent creative and precise. I trained on top of version 5.3 and merged Hephaistos NextGen 2.0 into the mix. This gives some advantages. It got a very high cfg/step range starting at 5 steps and even lower (depending on the used sampler of course. For the cfg range I have tested even 0.5 and it worked. For higher cfg values you have to use more steps.

    The image above was made with the DPM2 a sampler. I will post a bigger version of it in the gallery.

    It works very well at around 2-4 cfg. As you can see above.. the recommended step count depends on the sampler and the used cfg scale.. In my test it started to work with 5 steps. for can be benificial especially for higer cfg scales.

    In my tests DPM 2 a and DPM++ 2S a worked really good for fine details. You can also use the Karras versions of these samplers.

    Also DPM++ SDE, DPM++ SDE Karras, Euler a, Euler a Turbo, DDPM, DDPM Karras, DPM++ 2M Turbo, DPM++ 2M SDE Heun Exponential worked great in my tests.

    feel free to test other sampler if course..

    Be aware that some samplers aren't working. Don't use following samplers:

    DPM++ 2M Karras, DPM++ 2M,DPM++ 2M, DPM++ 2M SDE, DPM++ 2M SDE Heun, Euler, LMS, LMS Karras, Heun, 3M SDE Karras, DPM fast, DPM2 Karras, Restart, PLMS, DDIM, Uni PC, LCM, LCM Karras

    Version 5.3_Trained

    This version is another nearly fully trained model. In addition it combines parts of my Hephaistos_LCM_hybrid model https://civarchive.com/models/200061/hephaistosnextgenxl-lcmbf16hybrid and Gleipnir by freek22 https://civarchive.com/models/175094/gleipnir

    The result is a model capable to do very low steps while giving the possibility to gain even more details on more steps. I have added a small steps/cfg scale to the showcase. It uses DPM++ SDE from a range from 5 steps to 60 steps and a cfg range from 1 to 20 cfg. It works well with A1111/Comfy/Foocus (just turn off all styles and Loras) I highly recommend to use a -2 Clip skip with this version.

    A first workflow for comfy can be found here: https://civarchive.com/articles/3113

    Version 4.9b Experimental_Trained

    This a fully experimental model. I trained it over several weeks on base of the 1.6 Version of Colossus Project XL. Then I added parts of Version 4.9. Try it and leave a review if you like. Which version do you prefer?

    Version 4.9:

    This one took a long time. For this I trained even a complete new model (It will bepublic soon) I have merged in. Goal of it was to get it more stable and also added more details.

    This model changes a lot.

    Version 2.02 is still very good, so consider to download both and decide yourself which model you prefer...

    Might discuss this even in the comments :-)

    Version 2.02:

    I merged in more parts from the Realistic Stock Photo Model. (about 35 percent). This increased the quality of the skin textures. Version 1.6 is still extremely good so I advise to try both versions.

    Give me some feedback in form of a small review or just post some pictures in the gallery when you are pleased with the results. Also if you want to support me you can gift me a beer here :-)

    https://ko-fi.com/afroman4peace

    Special thanks to freek22 who helped me creating this. I highly recommend his new checkpoint FenrisXL. Check out his amazing work. Also thanks PromptSharingSamaritan for letting me merge in your amazing model into Version 2.02. It really increases the skin quality a lot compared with Version 1.6.

    Disclaimer and warning:

    This checkpoint is fully uncensored. Only your imagination is the limit. Beware of this.. It's not intented to create just porn but it can be very horny. I would advice to consider this and maybe add NSFW in negative prompts... Don't use this to harm others... Please use this responsible! You are fully responsible for your actions!

    And most important:

    Don't use this to create CP! If I see such pictures here in the gallery I will flag it and you might get banned from here..

    Useful tricks:

    1. Don't use the refiner! It seems to causes only bad results.

    2. Don't use the DPM++ 2M Sampler; I recommend SDE samplers in general.. Tested it with DPM++ SDE Karras and it works on a wirde range.

    3. On standard this model trys to create photos. So there is no prompt needed for this but it can enhance the results. play with different cameras and settings. Also if you want to create art/anime/drawings use negative prompts like realism, photo, 3D...

    4. You (almost) don't need negative prompts. I mostly use the prompt "boring". To handle the skimpy behaviour of this model try to use words like tits, nude, NSFW in the negative. Sometimes especially for creatures like cats or mythical creatures add woman to the negative prompt.

    5. I mostly use the DPM (2M) SDE Karras for my prompts at around 10-70+ steps with a cfg from 5-10

      Feel free to experiment here.

    6. Colossus XL can handle resolutions up to 1200x1200 very well. You can go above but it can increase your failure rate

    7. To upscale your results you can just use img to img. use around 0.2-0.3 denoise. (this can vary depending on the prompt) feel free to experiment with it.

    8. This is a workflow for Comfy UI https://civarchive.com/articles/1978/workflow-for-xl-13-asmodeus I know its for Asmodeus but I will optimise it for Colossus soon.

    9. Have fun

    Here is the full credit list of things I used for this model including the resources I used for my other models which are merged into Colossus XL. Thanks for all your work. Please check ou their work and give them a like/review.

    MIDGARD by freek22 freek22

    https://civarchive.com/models/463847/midgard-thl-hybrid.

    SDXL Hyper by ByteDance https://huggingface.co/ByteDance/Hyper-SD

    Furry Enhancer by freek22

    https://civarchive.com/models/310964/furry-enhancer-sdxl

    Gleipnir by freek22

    https://civarchive.com/models/175094/gleipnir

    Realistic Stock Photo by PromptSharingSamaritan

    https://civarchive.com/models/139565?modelVersionId=154593

    NewdawnXL by freek22

    https://civarchive.com/models/120741?modelVersionId=163104

    Those resources I used to create Hephaistos, Talos and Asmodeus:

    FenrisXL by freek22

    https://civarchive.com/models/122793/fenrisxl

    SDVN6-RealArtXL by StableDiffusionVN

    https://civarchive.com/models/118114?modelVersionId=128795

    first_nsfw_for_sdxl_v1 by sevenof9247

    https://civarchive.com/models/118794/firstnsfwforsdxlv1

    Perfect Eyes XL by Deizor

    https://civarchive.com/models/118427/perfect-eyes-xl

    Finenude by finenude

    https://civarchive.com/models/117603?modelVersionId=127928

    Hella Babes, a SDXL LoRA for better nudity by vfx_ai

    https://civarchive.com/models/127842?modelVersionId=139902

    Film Like XL by getjinxed

    https://civarchive.com/models/130286/film-like-xl

    Description

    - more details

    - better consistence

    Don't use the DPM++ 2M Sampler; I recommend SDE samplers in general..

    FAQ

    Comments (27)

    Afroman4peace
    Author
    Nov 1, 2023
    CivitAI

    To get some feedback about my new model I have created a small image contest. You can win 1001 buzz! https://civitai.com/bounties/334

    ericmaengNov 2, 2023· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    Nice work bro, I swear Colossus is Top notch SDXL model on earth at the moment. Really appreciate your efforts.

    I run global Gen AI business and want to suggest a collaborative research opportunities. Would you contact me?

    (Plus, just bought you a beer :X)

    - mail: [email protected]
    - discord: eric_sdxl

    GnarlyArroganceNov 2, 2023· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    Hm, the same issue I have with DemonCore is now showing up in Colossus.

    This is the same prompt, top old Colossus, bottom image new release:

    https://imgur.com/a/wK3PIqB

    Images have a certain deep fried and overcooked look to them. It must be something you've recently included in your merge-stack, but IMHO it looks terrible. Fixing color balance and saturation for every generated image really isn't what I want to do with my time.

    Afroman4peace
    Author
    Nov 2, 2023· 1 reaction

    I will look into it. What sampler/ steps/cfg did you used for the image? In my tests I didn't encounter this bug.

    GnarlyArroganceNov 2, 2023

    @Afroman4peace 

    Settings for this one were:

    emma watson and her twin sister with huge tits undressing emerging from their hiding places, wearing casual clothes holding fluffy white cat in old fashioned mansion | wlop, ilya kuvshinov, artgerm Negative prompt: mature, adult , clothes, dressed, boring, (close-up, zoomed-in, portrait), ziprealism_neg, 3d, 3drender Steps: 25, Sampler: DPM++ 3M SDE Exponential, CFG scale: 6, Seed: 1127431140, Size: 1280x896, Model hash: dd78f6fd15, Model: colossusProjectXLSFW_v49BakedVAE, VAE hash: 63aeecb90f, VAE: sdxl_vae.fp16.fix.safetensors, Version: v1.6.0-263-g464fbcd9

    Don't judge me for the prompt: It's part me to blame, part DynamicPrompt/Magic Prompt.

    I will test different samplers to test this now, it's a good point.

    Afroman4peace
    Author
    Nov 2, 2023· 1 reaction

    @GnarlyArrogance I will test it with this settings. Another thing you can try is not to use the ziprealism_neg. Thanks for telling me this issue. That really helps me.

    Afroman4peace
    Author
    Nov 2, 2023· 1 reaction

    I did a small test with this ziprealism test and your settings.. its down in the gallery.

    GnarlyArroganceNov 2, 2023· 1 reaction

    @Afroman4peace Thanks for looking into it. I tried to find some examples without those embeddings and I think these show "my problem" pretty well (because the subject of the prompts is pretty stable between versions:

    https://imgur.com/a/rQuXHCI

    The new versions look like some kid on his first day at photoshop cranked all the exposure/saturation/contrast sliders to the max. It can work as a 'style' in surreal images like these, they don't look totally terrible, but all subtlety is erased.

    Maybe v2.02 is just too good... idk

    Afroman4peace
    Author
    Nov 2, 2023· 2 reactions

    @GnarlyArrogance I have found a lets say bigger mistake I made.. I have may uploaded a "wrong" model... So this model is in fact a kind of a DEMON CORE/Colossus merge.. still very good but this explains something.. Also I gave this model a way to similar name. I will upload this other model soon.

    GnarlyArroganceNov 2, 2023

    @Afroman4peace That would make a lot of sense, since this looks a lot like DemonCORE to me and with that one I was like "meh, not for me this model" and moved on. Different strokes for different folks and all that.

    2597411Nov 4, 2023· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    The new version does not work very well with DPM++ 2M Karras, the previous version was more stable and with less noise.

    https://imgur.com/a/WFExAhx

    Afroman4peace
    Author
    Nov 5, 2023

    Thanks for mentioning this. The previous version already had problems with this kind of sampler. I always use SDE sampler for this model. I haven't compared it with the previous version in this regard.

    Afroman4peace
    Author
    Nov 5, 2023· 2 reactions

    I added it in the description of this model. Use SDE samplers. Also I am already working on the next version. this time I am trying to get it working. I first have to figure out why those types of samplers doesn't work. This shift happened in the last version (2.02). I added a tiny bit of Demon Core and it seems that it made it worse.

    Sadly I haven't that much time for testing lately. I am working on models for my hobby but real life and my main work goes always first. The next version will might be something completely different. I started working on a complete new self trained model.

    2597411Nov 7, 2023

    @Afroman4peace Thanks for answering ;)

    strategytestNov 5, 2023· 1 reaction
    CivitAI
    Afroman4peace
    Author
    Nov 5, 2023· 1 reaction

    I looked into it. First the reason why there is no seed is comfy related. Second I did great a mistake here.. It seems like I have choosen the wrong model in parts pf the showcase.. and yes I accidentally named them similar. So I will redo parts of the showcase now.

    Afroman4peace
    Author
    Nov 5, 2023

    The model I have accidentally used is a experimental test model. It generally performs good but is lacking in creativity. I can and will upload that model too soon just to prove my point here.. Also what do you mean with censorship. Is it to censored? If so use a Lora.

    Afroman4peace
    Author
    Nov 5, 2023

    I have uploaded this version I mentioned. Do you have Comfy UI?

    Afroman4peace
    Author
    Nov 6, 2023

    You can download the experimental checkpoint now. Copy the workflow or use my workflow I've posted in the comments. So what do you mean with censorship? Do you want to use it for creating porn or what? I really don't get your point here...

    SuoixDsNov 6, 2023· 3 reactions

    Don't worry Afroman4peace, some folks like double standards by wasting other folks time by not defining what they mean and making the other person have to use ESP to figure it out. Especially when they are getting high quality tools for 0 cost to them except click download and experiment. I mean Afroman, its not like you spent many many hours developing tools for us to use that you could just have kept for yourself. ;)

    Anyways, thanks for the work and models. Most of us understand and appreciate the work yal do for us, even if we don't say anything. Accidents/mishaps happen. When they don't it will likely be because AI replaced us using and making AI models. lol

    Afroman4peace
    Author
    Nov 7, 2023

    @SuoixDs Thanks for your nice words. Normally I double check my showcases but I was very tired. Also this shows that I do not cherry picking :-). Next time I only publish on weekends with more time. What really annoys me about him is that he doesn't respond. And yes creating checkpoint's especially training those yourself cost time and money. Just paid over 150 € more for electricity this year alone. running a high end rig isn't cheap. I am not doing this for money or fame. Just for stilling my curiosity and for fun.

    SuoixDsNov 7, 2023

    @Afroman4peace No problem. At some point I want to try making some stuff myself, but I am 1 very self-conscious about showing folks the stuff I put together due to trolls criticism and 2 I am still quite green. There are so many tools, techniques, and extensions to do stuff now. Some things are great, some things are... not so great. Try to learn what all is there and can add to better/faster results has been kind of overwhelming. Feels like if you step away for a week, something new has come out that blows away your old process or replaces something that was "the best at x, y, z". So I am playing with all kinds of models and loras while trying to get a feel for what's good, what's great, and what should be passed on until it catches up to other options. I figure until you have a good grip on that, it would be hard to determine a good result from a bad result. Your models are definitely at the top of my favorites list. And other models that are not yours that I really like, typically have some variant of yours merged into them.

    With that said, as I currently use A1111, do you find that comfy makes it easier to get a good result with the model or does it just allow it to do so faster/more efficiently in render time? Thanks for your time. :)

    Good thing is I have a 4090 so I can pretty much test/try anything I have seen folks put out so far. I feel bad for folks who it takes them minutes to generate a 512x512 when I am used to it only taking seconds to generate a 1024x1024.

    Afroman4peace
    Author
    Nov 7, 2023

    @SuoixDs Comfy is giving really good results with the checkpoints but is pretty overwhelming at the start. That's why I published my workflows;-). I also use A1111 of course. Some extensions are really good there...

    zathorosNov 7, 2023

    perhaps he had an image flagged as a violation of tos, or flagged for review. I've had it happen to me and the images weren't even nsfw, sort of inexplicable really. but not something anyone but civitai has control over. One of the images I posted of a frog just now, was flagged for review.

    Afroman4peace
    Author
    Nov 7, 2023· 1 reaction

    @zathoros For me my cat pictures got flagged a lot of time. I really don't why. Its maybe because the moderators like cats and are looking though it :-)

    vjcarlotta418Nov 5, 2023· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    Hello, Does Colossus work with Mac ? I have installed your model (which looks great) but I can't open it in my Stable Diffusion Checkpoint.

    Thank you for your answer

    Afroman4peace
    Author
    Nov 5, 2023

    Hi, I found this link here about SDXL and Mac. https://stable-diffusion-art.com/install-mac/#Does_AUTOMATIC1111_on_Mac_support_SDXL You maybe need to update A1111. I haven't tested it on Mac myself.