KREA2 Turbo NSFW LoRA

A trainer can decide how "large" they want the lora to be depending on range of factors. You could call this a "safety bypasser" in that it does not appear to have the highest-fidelity genitals. But what I'm sure this will have, is a much closer alignment with the base model's expectations. Using a heavier lora will make it unusable with other loras. Idk if you've noticed the instructions on other NSFW loras, but the largest ones will try and tell you not to use them with other loras -- because those large loras contain weights, not just the data that gets thrown in.

Its even more suspicious that you would block me for asking a basic question about its 30mb size. That alone is suspicious. If it’s legitimate, you explain the rank/quantization. Blocking just confirms the suspicion. A simple its "It's trained at rank 4" would have sufficed. People are so unhinged these days, shoot first ask questions later.

"When you cut out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say."

@makiaeveli 
"Large LoRAs contain weights, not just the data..." – All LoRAs contain weights. That’s what a LoRA is (Low-Rank Adaptation). It doesn't contain "data" or images; it contains weight adjustments for the model's layers.

"Heavier LoRAs make it unusable with other LoRAs..." – Flat out wrong. Multi-LoRA stacking depends on what layers were trained and the network rank (dim), not the raw megabytes on disk. You can stack 150 MB LoRAs easily if they don't overlap on the exact same niche concepts.

Complex Concept Size – You admitted it lacks "highest-fidelity" details. For Krea2 / Flux architecture, a complex concept (body mechanics, precise anatomy, multi-pose nudity) requires a higher Rank (like Dim 16 to 64) to capture the complexity. A 30 MB file means it's likely a Rank 4 or 8, which is mathematically incapable of holding high-fidelity, complex structural data. It's just shifting existing base model biases, hence, a glorified alignment/safety bypass, of which there are already 3 that I know of in existence. OstrisAI's safety bypass lora and two others here, also a comfyui node that does the bypass.

It's a bypass and all these bypass loras and nodes lower realism quality significantly, if you're a weeb its a great thing, if you enjoy realism, not so much.

Look at all the low tier normie toxic AI bros dog pilling on me for no reason other than smelling blood. They see a thumbs down, and monkey see monkey do.

BTW reason why I blocked every one of you is because you're all NPC's and I have nothing to gain by our interaction. You have no idea what you're contributing to and just dog pilling in because of some toxic hive-mind behavior. Although its not like it matters, everyone here has multiple accounts because this website is so ban heavy.

@fox23vang226  that was literally the most NPC response you could have given. I mean I tried to explain this to you in a human way and you simply retort with the ... definitions. I clearly understood those, that's why I relayed that information in a way that would be digestible to someone spouting paranoia over sample images that obviously show humans doing human things. Do you think that those vaginas and penises in those sample images are about the fidelity of 28 mb? Cause that's all it's trying to add. You can create bypassers with way smaller sizes, which you also called suspicious, and I'm sure were pondering over those above definitions all week. Also, are we NPCs, are we "AI bros"? Who's speaking their language in this thread? "DIM" this, "network" that, you sound like them to me, bro.

at makiaeveli - You are projecting brother. Me calling you NPCs was a harsh pill to swallow, so your only comeback was a "no u" aka "My dad can beat up your dad".  

"Do you think that those vaginas and penises in those sample images are about the fidelity of 28 mb?"- or the base model already knew how to draw them and the LoRA is just a 30 MB safety filter bypass unlocking the door. Of which I got blocked by the OP for simply pointing it out.

@fox23vang226 lmfao what? Bro do you hear yourself? You sound like a child. You know this is an adult website, right? "Projecting", brother you are the one who started insulting everyone, in your own words. I just can't even, lmfao, this is average American discourse, lmfao

What would be useful is if you simply downloaded the lora and proved to the internet why this 30mb is dangerous. I mean that would actually be useful. Like do you have tools you use to verify the integrity of the models you download and use?

Well it looks like a mod has caught onto this comment section and removing my comments now...sigh cant have any criticism on this website, that's illegal.

@fox23vang226 You’re coming in extremely hot for someone who claims to just be asking a “basic question.”

Calling a 30MB LoRA immediately “suspicious” and a safety bypass, then acting shocked when people push back, is not neutral Curiosity, it’s loaded with bad faith. Guess that’s why the reaction was negative.

Technically you’re also overstating your case. LoRA file size alone doesn’t determine whether something is a “bypass” or low quality. Rank matters, but so do target modules, training approach, quantization, and what concepts were actually adapted. There are perfectly valid smaller LoRAs that focus on better base model alignment rather than throwing huge dense weights at complex concepts. Not every small file is automatically low-fidelity garbage.

But the bigger issue is your behavior. You:

1.Open with heavy suspicion and accusations

2.Use AI to send a “clever” reply,call people “low tier normie toxic AI bros”, “NPCs”, and part of a toxic hive-mind (very ironic)

3.Mass-block everyone who disagrees

4.Then play the victim and quote lines about “cutting out a man’s tongue”

That’s classic toxic internet behavior. You created the exact dogpile dynamic you’re complaining about. If you actually wanted a technical discussion about rank, dim, or other stuff, you could have asked calmly instead of framing everything as shady and everyone else as mindless NPCs.

People are tired of this kind of aggressive, superior attitude in AI communities. Ask genuine questions without the conspiracy tone and you’ll usually get better responses.

@Asterix2000BC Sir you have no idea what you are talking about and you are equally just as ignorant and NPC as all the people dog pilling in this drama.

You wrote a whole essay just to completely invert the timeline.

My original comment was literally: 'Is this just a safety filter bypasser? the size is suspiciously small.' That is a standard technical question in an ecosystem flooded with dirty unalignment files AKA AI SLOP loras/checkpoints aka buzz farmers. Instead of a 5-second answer about the rank or architecture, the dev immediately threw a tantrum and blocked me.

The toxicity started with this fragile entitled AI bro community whom is super antisocial and cant handle basic inquiries and is extremely paranoid and immediately takes any comment that doesn't kiss the creators ass as some form of toxicity. Everything after that was me refusing to match the fake politeness of a community that dog-piles anyone who doesn't mindlessly clap for every 30MB download. I didn't create the dynamic.

BTW- I blocked you because you are part of the problem, just another contemptible sheep mindlessly following the crowd without asking why.

Replies to my message and immediately blocks me so I can't reply. Real smart guy. :'-)

@fox23vang226 Ever thought about whether the whole community is toxic, or if it might actually be you?

@NeuroVortex This is the ultimate low-effort, pseudo-philosophical boilerplate response. "if everyone else is the problem, maybe it's you" cliché. Given how famously toxic and demanding the AI bro community is, fact, it’s peak irony for you to lecture me on community standards. Maybe that's why the Mods here are so hard and unforgiving on any type of criticism in this community. I suspect not long that they will wipe this entire comment section clean to keep up their Ivory tower appearance.

I asked a 13-word question about file size and got blocked for it. If pointing out how absolutely paranoid and antisocial AI bros react to technical questions and makes me the problem in your eyes, I'm perfectly fine with being the outsider.

If I were allowed to be paranoid myself I would assume all the people downvoting me is the same person with multiple accounts. There is a person famous on Reddit for creating thousands of accounts a day to troll. There are some truly mentally ill people in the world.

@fox23vang226 "A 30 MB file means it's likely a Rank 4 or 8, which is mathematically incapable of holding high-fidelity, complex structural data" Rank has no relation to fidelity.. It's even sometimes preferable to train skin detailers and similar loras at a low rank, to restrict the lora from learning geometry and other attributes that aren't needed.

I don't know how the OP trained this model, but one possible explanation is that it was trained using lokr.. a lokr lora at rank 32 can be around this size, and it has been claimed that lokr can match or outperform a standard lora of twice the rank size. Although I have not used it so have no idea if that's true or not.

@fox23vang226 STFU bro, you don't like something, dont download it and move on, we dont have to suffer your presence.