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A Goofy Movie 1995
A style LoRA for Krea 2. Applies a consistent visual treatment without locking the subject matter.
Usage
Include the trigger word agm in your prompt.
Recommended weight: 1. Start there and adjust — styles often read well below 1.0, and lower weights blend more naturally with other LoRAs.
Prompt Examples
Here are some prompt examples:
"agm, medium shot, eye level, background sharp. Four people are in frame: one woman stands behind a counter holding a plate with food, two men sit on stools at the counter, and one person is seated in the foreground. The woman wears a light blue apron over a pale yellow blouse and has red hair. One man wears a red and orange striped hoodie and a red cap; the other wears a blue overall and a beige cap. The person in the foreground wears a white headband and a dark top. The setting is a diner with yellow vertical wall panels, a round wall clock, a cash register, a stack of white plates on a shelf, and a red-topped stool. It is daytime, interior."
"agm, close-up. Eye level. Background is sharp. One cartoon dog is in frame, positioned on the left side. The dog has a muscular build, is wearing a yellow shirt with an orange star emblem, white gloves, and red-framed sunglasses. The dog’s mouth is open, showing teeth and tongue, and both fists are clenched. The setting is a solid purple background. It is daytime, exterior."
"agm, close-up. Eye level. Background is blurred. Two characters are in frame: one larger, brown-furred, with a wide grin, positioned on the left; the other smaller, black-furred, with wide eyes and a raised hand, positioned on the right. The larger character wears a blue coat with a maroon collar. The smaller character wears a yellow shirt with a white collar and a brown vest. The setting is underwater, with visible ropes and chains in the blurred background. It is daytime, underwater."
"agm, wide shot, eye level, background sharp. One person stands on the front porch steps of a house, facing forward. The person has a medium build and is wearing a red shirt and blue pants. The setting includes a stone pathway leading to the porch, a wooden house with a red roof, a white fence, green grass, and trees. It is daytime, exterior."
"agm, medium shot, eye level, background sharp. One person is in the frame, positioned on the right side, walking toward the house with their back to the camera. The person has a slender build and is wearing a red hooded sweatshirt and light blue pants. The setting is an exterior residential yard with a wooden house featuring a red-tiled roof, white porch railings, and a brick walkway. A green garden hose coiled on a reel is visible on the left side of the frame, and there are green bushes and trees in the background. It is daytime."
"agm, medium shot, eye level, background sharp. Four characters are in frame: on the left, a tall, thin character in a yellow shirt and green shorts stands with one hand on the shoulder of a shorter, plump character in a red shirt and blue pants; in the center, a plump character in a blue shirt and red shoes holds a large brown rope coil; on the right, a large, heavyset character in a blue vest over a red shirt and green shorts stands with hands on hips. The setting is an interior space decorated with blue netting, shells, and an anchor on the wall; a doorway is visible in the background. It is daytime, interior."
"agm, medium shot, eye level, background sharp. One cartoon baby, sitting in a blue high chair, holding a black fork with its right hand, facing right. The baby wears a white diaper. The setting is a kitchen with a wooden cabinet, a blue-tiled backsplash, a white electrical outlet, a grey blender, and a clear bowl of red apples on the countertop. It is daytime, interior."
"agm, medium shot, eye level, background sharp. Two characters are in frame: one on the left, standing with arms raised, wearing a yellow shirt and black pants; the other on the right, standing near a door, wearing a pink head covering, a green apron over a black shirt, and holding a vacuum cleaner. The setting is a cluttered bedroom with a red-and-white checkered bedspread in the foreground, a red electric guitar, a skateboard leaning against the wall, a red chair, a television, clothes scattered on the floor, and a model airplane hanging from the ceiling. It is interior, and the lighting suggests daytime."
"agm, medium close-up, eye level, background blurred. One dog-like character sits in the driver’s seat, facing forward with its head turned slightly to the right. The character has a green shirt and a brown vest. The setting is inside a vehicle with a brown seat and a black steering wheel visible. It is daytime, interior."
"agm, medium shot, eye level, background sharp. Two characters sit on the floor facing each other; the one on the left is larger, with a round build, and the one on the right is smaller, with a slender build. The left character wears a blue t-shirt and black pants with white gloves; the right character wears a maroon hoodie and blue pants with white gloves. The setting is an underwater room with a greenish floor, a desk with a fish sculpture, a television displaying blue figures, and pizza slices on the floor. Interior, daytime."
"agm, medium shot, eye level, background sharp. Two cartoon dogs are in frame: one on the left, standing, wearing a pink turban and a green robe, holding a purple tool; the other on the right, crouching, wearing a red hoodie, reaching toward the first dog. The setting is an interior room with a blue poster on the wall behind the left dog, featuring the word “ERLINE” in green, and a purple and beige abstract painting taped to the wall on the right. A brown cardboard cutout of a dog’s body is between them. It is interior."
"agm, medium shot. Eye level. Background is sharp. One person is in the frame, positioned centrally, viewed from behind. The person has a slender build and is standing with their left leg slightly forward, arms crossed in front of their torso. They are wearing a yellow short-sleeved shirt, brown trousers, black shoes, and white gloves. The setting is an interior space with a purple textured wall and red curtains on either side. It is night."
"agm, medium close-up, low camera angle, background sharp. One person is in the frame, centered, appearing to be an adult male with a large, round build, standing upright. He wears a light blue tank top. The setting is an interior with wooden walls and a visible door frame behind him. It is daytime."
"agm, close-up. Eye level. Background is sharp. One cartoon dog is in the frame, sitting in the driver’s seat of a car, looking forward with its head turned slightly to the right. The dog wears a brown coat and a pale yellow shirt. The setting is inside a car with orange interior, and through the window, a blue sky, green hills, and a house with a dark roof are visible. It is daytime, interior."
"agm, medium close-up, eye level, background blurred. One person is in the frame, positioned on the right side, sitting upright. The person has a slender build and is facing left. They are wearing a teal short-sleeved shirt. The setting is an interior space with a dark purple wall, a wooden structure behind them, and a circular object on the wall to the left. It is night."
"agm, medium close-up, eye level, background sharp. One character is in frame, sitting upright in bed, holding a telephone receiver to their ear with their right hand, left hand resting on the bedspread. The character wears a black long-sleeved shirt and white gloves. The setting is a bedroom with a wooden bed frame, pillows, a checkered bedspread in red and white, a nightstand with a red telephone, a shelf with a radio, and posters on the wall. It is night, interior."
"agm, medium shot, eye level, background sharp. Three animated characters are in a room: one on the left, crouched and leaning forward with arms bent; one in the center, sitting on the floor with legs extended; one on the right, standing with one hand on hip and the other raised. The left character wears a pink hat, black long-sleeved shirt, green apron, and white bunny slippers. The center character wears a red short-sleeved shirt and light blue pants. The right character wears a yellow long-sleeved shirt with a red circular emblem and dark pants. The room contains a red electric guitar, a speaker, posters on the walls, a blue scooter, and a wooden door. Interior, daytime."
"agm, medium close-up, eye level, background sharp. One person is in the frame, centered, appearing to be a child, with a slender build, raising their left hand with fingers spread. They are wearing a red short-sleeved shirt with black sleeves and a black drawstring hood. The setting is an interior room with a window, two blue plastic chairs, and a potted plant with dark green leaves in a brown pot. It is daytime."
"agm, medium close-up, eye level, background sharp. One person, centered in the frame, appears to be a young female with a medium build, standing with her hands clasped in front of her. She wears a teal short-sleeved shirt. The setting is an outdoor stadium with wooden bleacher seats visible behind her. It is daytime, exterior."
"agm, medium shot, eye level, background sharp. Two characters are inside a vehicle: one sits in the driver’s seat, leaning forward with a gloved hand raised, the other sits in the passenger seat, looking forward with a worried expression. The driver wears a green vest over a white shirt and has black hair; the passenger wears a red hoodie. The vehicle’s interior includes a steering wheel, dashboard, and windows. The setting is a forested area at night, visible through the windows."
Training
- Base model: Krea 2 (trained on Raw)
- Type: Style LoRA
- Dataset: 259 images
- Steps: 2000
- Network rank / alpha: 32 / 32
- Learning rate: 0.0002
- Optimizer: adamw8bit
- Resolutions: 768 / 1024
Generation settings
Trained on Krea 2 Raw, and transfers to Krea 2 Turbo for faster generation.
- Raw: ~30 steps, guidance 3.5
- Turbo: ~8 steps, guidance 1.0
The preview images were generated with krea2_turbo_mxfp8.safetensors, at 8 steps, guidance 1, LoRA weight 1.
Description
FAQ
Comments (17)
Have you considered releasing your new LoRAs free for like the first 24 (or even 48) hours?
I've noticed that all your free LoRAs get 20x or even 100x as many downloads, while the paid ones might get 1-5. While you make some buzz from the single buyer, the tradeoff is that your models don't get the viral hype for the "trending" tabs. (meaning the only people who see it to buy it are the ones already following you)
If you were to set all your models to free for the first day or so it would:
1) let you use all those free downloaders who were never going to give you money/buzz to instead give you a trending push getting more eyes on the current free models plus all your older, paid models.
2)this will build up your follower list so much that you show up in the top creators list so new users can find you organically and pay you for older models they want
3)by leveraging the free downloaders to get all your great models to go viral, it'll give more exposure to your models and what people make with them, which lets you make more buzz from the people generating with your models (you get a buzz commission for every generation)
4) this would encourage people who come to your account to actually follow you so they see your new models the minute they drop (fear of missing out drives conversions, my friend!) and then that large following list again (as said above) can be leveraged for more organic growth.
You don't have to be spammy or anything, but this freemium "keep a close eye out so you don't miss out!" model is how many SAAS and platforms work to enable those who can't pay to get access and those who can (and will) pay to pay for extras they want and everyone's happier. It's very equitable!
Not trying to break any TOS or anything (I'll gladly delete!) but I have a background in business building, customer relationship and email building, etc. and I'm just trying to help! Godspeed
hey @7117 thank you so much for your feedback. Really appreciate your effort and all the arguments. Let me tell you what I tried. The first 90+ loras I publish here, was all free, I was expecting some sort of tips for the work, but I get 2000 or 3000 buzz in tips for all the work, so, I decide prize all my loras. I was thinking about the price (1000 yellow buzz), and the amount of $ the user pay is 1$ and the amount i get is maybe 0.30$ - 0.40$ (you never know cose the system civitai uses to monetize your work is a nightmare rollercoaster), I thought this setup was ok, cheap. Then yellow buzz starts to show up. After a while, I get another suggestion from a user, to price my loras down, so I will get more "sales", and I did, I price all my loras at 300 yellow buzz for a week, and at the end, I get more or less the same amount of downloads, meaning 70% less yellow buzz. So, i get back to price at 1000. I would like civitai to improve the ways and options a creator can monetize and promote the work, like monthly subscriptions with tiers and things like that, some sort of patreon if you like, but right now is not the case. I send a ticket a week ago asking for help to setup easy way for users to download my loras and radio silence since then. Your Idea sounds good, but, do still think in the same way after I explain you all my process? I have plans to create free loras, and im doing it atm, i publish some free loras that anyone can use. But setting all my loras for free for the first day/s doesnt sounds like very smart move to do after my experience, but the problem as a creator is that civitai doesnt give me this option, so I have to do all this configuration manually everyday, putting new loras with price, add new loras without price, keep some sort of excel sheet to control manually all this stuff is also a nightmare for me. Please, give me your thoughts about my reply.
@RKRRa I understand your pain! Civitai is still trying new things and learning from feedback, so there's a need for new ways to monetize and give users (especially valuable uploaders like you!) more control.
The fact that setting your price to only 300 instead of 1000 resulted in the same amount of downloads proves my point: the people who were always going to pay would pay anyway (meaning you're missing out on the hundreds of downloads of free downloaders who can't). The payers will find a way to pay whether it's 1000 or 300, the nonpayers can't.
I understand your frustration. From my history in marketing and dealing with customers, the problem you're having is that you want to make at least something (resources) from your uploads so you tried to solve that by setting the same price for everyone. The problem is that some can't pay (even $1 is too much for those without access to it, or no platform, or US bank, etc.) so how can you monetize the ones who can't pay?
As I outlined in my original post, I think your best option is to not "squeeze blood from a stone" (meaning: try to get something that the users don't have) from the free ones. So what CAN you get from the free downloaders? Leverage and exposure! The ones who can pay will find a way to give you buzz (money) to support you whether it's 300 or 1,000. But if you set them to free from the start (then change a day or two later) you can get SOMETHING from the free downloaders: their help.
The free downloaders are unable to pay in cash/buzz. So let them pay you how they can: boosting your LoRAs by downloading, liking, commenting, etc. so it pushes them in the algorithm in front of a bigger number of payers.
The problem you're having is an old one and one every kind of platform, business, service, etc. all faces online: how do I get some benefit from people who can't pay? The answer: give them access and let their work (the interactions, likes, comments, etc.) serve as help to push your platform into the attention of those who CAN pay.
Even Civitai gives free buzz to each user for this reason! It's because the benefit of having a LOT more users (even free ones) eventually means all the talking, posting, etc. grows big enough that it gets the platform (or your LoRAs) in front of the people who can pay (and want to pay a lot!)
If you run a night club, you let all the girls in free so the guys who want to spend thousands of dollars on champagne show up. If you try to charge everyone $1,000 per bottle like you want that guy to pay, no one will show up so he has no one to dance with when he does show up with money.
Your 300 buzz is reasonable! The price wasn't the problem. It's that some people cannot pay with financial means (every platform does this!) so you have to find another way to benefit. You give them access for free, and in exchange they like, comment, download, interact, etc. and they promote your LoRAs for you.
@RKRRa I see you have a discord community and a Patreon to make money. This is reasonable and how many people make money. The problem you're having is that you're really good at the technical aspect (creating the LoRAs) but don't have the business/marketing experience.
What you need to build is called a marketing funnel. You need something at the top (your LoRAs being free) as a reason to get people to follow you and build up your account (move down the funnel.) You want this top portion to be as big as possible (that's why they're free for everyone for a short time) and some percentage of those who come for the free stuff will join your discord and Patreon.
These premium followers who want to give you money/buzz will then move further down the marketing funnel by contacting you on discord/patreon to commission more LoRAs (give you money.)
But the only way to find hundreds or thousands of these paying customers (the whales, big fish!) who pay the most, is to cast a wide net. And you need good bait (the LoRAs being free) to give them a reason to stay on your fishing line long enough for you to reel them in!
@7117 got it! So the point is to give more loras for free in return of exposure. So, instead of your original idea to set all the loras for free the first day, dont you think set up some % of my loras for free forever will be also a nice way to achieve that? if so, what % you think it will work best for my profile?
@RKRRa Now you're thinking creatively! But, let's outline the new problem of setting "some percentage of LoRAs as free forever" is that then your problem becomes you trying to decide which LoRAs most people you've never met would want for free and which they would pay for. You're converting your marketing issue into a matter of you deciding what people should want.
I'm not saying your idea is wrong, I'm saying you're just trading one problem for another. And your new problem is an old business problem too. The phrase "The customer is always right" doesn't mean "let rude people be rude." The full phrase is "The custom is always right...in matters of taste." Meaning that if you want to sell blue shirts, but customer's want to buy green shirts, then you'll get frustrated and give up and go out of business because you tried to decide for them which they -should- pay for and which they shouldn't.
In example: If you set LoRA A, LoRA B, and LoRA C as "free forever" and LoRA D, E, F as "paid" but the customers wanted the opposite (they would've paid for ABC, but no one wants DEF) then you'll sell no shirts (LoRAs) and get frustrated no one is buying!
You just gave me an idea how to further use this marketing idea. You want to get buyers to join your discord (move further down the funnel) from the free stuff. So how do you do that? Well, you set a message/notice on here that users in your Discord find out which models will be dropping BEFORE you upload them. This gives free users who want to not miss the 24 hour free window a reason to join your Discord (so they see you say what LoRAs are going to be uploaded, so they download in time!) and then from your Discord community, as it grows over time from dozens or hundreds to thousands (or tens of thousands!) you'll have a huge pool of people all in your community so by pure math the number of buyers will go up.
If only 1% of your followers are buyers then that means out of your 300 followers on CIVITAI, you'll only get 1-3 buys on your paid LoRAs. This seems accurate (since you get about 1-3 buys per paid LoRA on average).
So then your problem is just a math problem. If 1% of my followers are buyers, all I need to do to make more money is get more followers!
And how do you gain massive numbers of followers? You need to go consistently viral and have a way to convert those new eyeballs you're getting into community members.
How do you go consistently viral? Give the LoRAs away free for 24-48 hours (the free downloads/likes/comment/etc.) will boost you to the top charts long periods of time.
How do you convert those new eyeballs? By having a reason for them to join your community and stick around long term (the discord giving warning ahead of time of what LoRAs are coming gives people a reason to join!)
Your problem is just a math problem. Only a small percent of users on ANY platform pay (that's not just for you, it's for everyone. Facebook, Instagram, Civitai, etc.) so all you need to do to make more money is increase the number of potential payers you have by getting as many bodies into your pool of available people as possible.
If 1% (or even 10%) of your followers buy, then all you need to do to make more money is get more followers. And you can leverage all the ones who aren't paying you directly, into getting more payers by growing your community and downloading/liking/interacting with the free LoRAs! It's powerful my friend
What I'm saying is not just theory, either. You can look at the long-term mainstay profiles here who have 10s of thousands of regular followers/millions of downloads/etc. who are making $$$ here and it's because they gave everything away for FREE for months/years and built up a huge following. When you give people an absolutely massive ton of free value forever, you will build not only a huge following but when the people who are buyers show up, they see "Wow, this dude has a zillion followers, he must be really good at what he does!" where as when they show up to an account with two followers and no one interacting they think "This guy isn't experienced enough yet."
Look at any account here making serious $$$ and it's because they gave everything away for free for a longtime yet still ended up making money because they created a HUGE pool of potential buyers AND they created legitimacy and social proof. No one wanting to spend money wants to give their money to an untested, potential scam bot account.
But that RKRRa guy who has 30,000 followers because he's so awesome at this that he can give the chips and salsa away for free to everyone who came in? That's the guy they want to special order a steak from!
@7117 I see your point. As I mention before, this setup of making first 24H loras and price it after that, is a nightmare to conrol, and im not going to jump in to this. If civitai had a system implemented I will give it a try, but how it is right now is going to be a mess for me to manually control all of that considering the amount of loras I publish everyday. So, as an alternative, I can try to do somehing like, "FREE WEEK", or somehting like this, where for a large period of time, everythig is free and foerever. In this scenario, the types of products (loras) are going to be distributed equaly, (green shirts, and blue shirts). And I can do that once at month for exmple, do you think it will work?
I'll give you one further piece of strategy real quick: the LoRAs you think would be the most valuable are the ones you believe that will get the most downloads. Those are the ones you might be tempted to charge for, but that's backwards.
The ones that most people would want are the ones that have the best chance of going viral and getting eyeballs on your lesser-known-but still good LoRAs!
Take your Star Wars Krea 2 LoRA. It got the most by far. This shows that that one particular one had such a heavy appeal that even when you setup a roadblock (payment) several people were still willing to.
That's fine if every LoRA you make is as popular as Star Wars (they won't be) so how can you better leverage the popularity?
Now imagine how many people would've wanted that if there was no wall in place.
If you had uploaded it for free (the quality of your LoRAs is good) it would've EASILY gotten thousands or tens of thousands of new eyes on your profile (and all your back catalog). If your funnel driving people to your Discord to see the new LoRAs had been in place, you could've 10x your Discord community with that one.
The most strategic move for the LoRAs you think have a huge chunk of guaranteed wanters, is to release that for free and let the swarm of downloads/likes/comments/etc. create viral moments that grow your profile. This sets you up for success because every viral hit you gave away for free gives you a higher chance to go viral again because every LoRA you release after that you're releasing with a larger dedicated community already in place!
Let each one of your LoRAs be a seed that helps produce the next harvest.
Don't eat the seeds. Give em away free and let your community do the manual labor for you.
Godspeed, hope it helps.
@RKRRa free week is not a bad start until civitai gives you more granularity on your control! Smart thinking!
The downside to it is that part of the boost of having them go viral means the ones you upload during free week will go way more viral than the older ones that were already uploaded and become free during free week.
This means that even if the LoRA is good, it won't go as viral as it could have if it had been uploaded when it was free. You're getting close to seeing the power of the virality of why "free at first, paid later" works.
Your free week is basically my idea in reverse. Upload them (they stagnate, no downloads) then if they get no sales, make them free later. The problem is that older products won't get that "new and trending" boost they would have if they'd been free when they were uploaded.
You're right there on the doorstep. You're getting the power of why having them be momentarily free (free week) is smart. You're just missing the strategy that lets you get momentarily free+uploaded just now so they go viral and reach top of trending.
Older models don't trend as well as brand new. Let the free be the new ones (24-48 hours) so they trend and that let's them sell themselves PLUS get eyeballs on your old one. The more eyeballs that land on the full back catalog, the more likely you are to match up whoever would pay for it with the model they didn't know they wanted until they saw it.
Let the new ones free be your viral marketing weapon so you can set yourself up to make a killing!
@7117 thanks for all your advice! I will think about this and do something about it
@RKRRa Completely Understandable. I mean, what do you have to lose? You've already tried it the other way. Why not try it for like a month and see if you get the growth out of it?
Halloween is a little over a month away. Set your funnel in place by updating your profile here telling users that members of your Discord find out what LoRAs are coming the day before they do. Set everything current and coming between now and Halloween (or 30 days) free.
Then keep releasing the massive amount of high quality LoRAs you do and let the virality work its magic. If you want to add a note on them that they'll (eventually) be paywalled, why not do that?
Is it a hassle? Everything to make $ is. But at least you enjoy this. And there are worse headaches. Why not try it for ONE month and see if you see some growth and you'll know if it's worth it long-term until civitai comes up with a working way to do it automatically? I could and you're better at it than me.
One thing this conversation revealed is that Civitai could do a "reverse early access" release window.
Instead of having it be "paid for a short time, automatically becomes free later" they should have an option to have it "free for a short time, automatically becomes paid later" and let you set the timer.
Food for thought because I support you:
In the last week, you've uploaded dozens of LoRAs that total about 1 download each. (a couple got more) The two LoRAs you uploaded free today have more downloads than all those rest combined.
150% or more!! And that's just in the few minutes we were talking!
Imagine how viral each would be going (and how many new fans would discover you) if these were your daily 5-8+ LoRAs instead of just two. Crazy!
Hey bro, just FYI, Civitai's new timed pricing deal is perfect for you. If you want to do the "free for the first 24 hours" thing, you can set the coupon/pricing for 100% off for the first day, then it automatically goes to regular price.
Just letting you know since you said the only thing stopping you from using that awesome boosted trending that free movie style LoRAs get the first day was the fact it used to be a huge hassle having to manually do the pricing changes. Godspeed, looking forward to what you bring us next👌