Illustrious v2 - Added tongue and finger images. updated tags. Tongue works alright but other concepts may be suffering besides objects. ( Use this for tongue action, Go back to v1 for other stuff )
Illustrious - Much better results and you can do more than what's listed below.
Pony v2 - Results are slightly better than before but don't expect much. This (Pony v2) was only updated because of tag changes for Illustrious.
Note: Having these difference concepts under one lora is clearly not working, If I ever update it will be to separate the concepts. I've wasted far too much buzz on this while testing.
Concepts w/ prompts:
New Tag to use for Illustrious v2
_____ in urethra
Tentacles
urethral penetration, penis, tentacles
Urethral Beads
urethral penetration, urethral beads, penis,
POV docking (Inconsistent)
urethral penetration, pov, penis size difference, cock docking, large penis, small penis,
Side docking (Inconsistent)
urethral penetration, from side, penis size difference, cock docking, large penis, small penis,
Object Tags
holding [object]
dildo
sex toy
sounding rod - tests weren't great
Object insertion - may help, but will most likely cause dildos in other holes.
OTHER TAGS:
Urethral bulge - Doesn't work
Urethral beads Bulge - Tried to separate bulges but lack of data makes both of these unreliable.
V1 - Old info for initial version
This model is intended for urethral insertion for penises, both male and futanari work, although I haven't tested males. Set strength between .6 and 1.
Best at tentacles but can do pov and sounding with toys notably the urethral beads.
Concepts w/ prompts:
Tentacles (Consistent)
urethral insertion, penis, tentacles
Urethral Beads (not Consistent)
urethral insertion, urethral beads, full body, penis, sounding, object insertion
POV docking (not Consistent try strength of 1)
urethral insertion, pov, penis in urethra, penis size difference, docking, futanari
OTHER TAGS:
Urethral bulge
Description
Pruned dataset, changed tags. This still has the same issues as v1 however.
FAQ
Comments (12)
Thanks for the update! I'm looking forward to the Illustrious version. Is there any way you could include the "urethral_tonguing" tag in its training too? Seems like a concept that Illustrious and its derivatives can't really do. There are some example images on E621, although not all of them are very high quality.
I can add on to the dataset, any other tags? And Illustrious version is up.
@insertusername Oops, didn't realize you were already uploading the Illustrious version 😅. If it's possible to have them all in the same Lora, I'd also like to see the inclusion of the "urethral_fingering" and "penis_in_penis" tags. Also technically the tag is actually "urethral_tonguing", not "tongue_in_urethra", so I'll edit my original comment.
@bluepopsicle penis in penis is already included but I used "cock docking" and "penis size difference". Illustrious generally can already do most of this but takes fiddling and the lora makes it a little easier. Testing tongues and fingers now. Edit: yeah you are right tongue and fingers don't work I'll add them in when I update this again.
@insertusername Ah, I'll have to give those a try. I just posted an attempt with the Pony v2 version - seems to be pretty good at tonguing already if you prompt it right. I'm not having the same luck with the Illustrious version though - it keeps adding toys I didn't prompt for.
@bluepopsicle Yeah thats the main issue I'm having, toys are far more prevalent in the training data, I need to search for better images to add one of these days. Penis in penis does not work well unfortunately.
@insertusername I had coincidentally started gathering examples not too long ago. I'll send you a message with a link to the folder. It's only a dozen images so far, but they're good quality in a variety of styles.
Is there any way to get urethral bulges, I tried many prompts but I couldn't get any... Any other Illustrious LoRA I could use for that?
Bulges don't really work, I'll need to try and work on it in the next version. I don't know if there are any other loras that would help with it unfortunately.
@insertusername I recently found this one https://civitai.com/models/699568/the-ultimate-urethral-sounding-lora-for-pony, it works wonder, check it out!
Now this shit is awesome. I've used it back when you first released for Pony with success but the Illustrious update sure as hell made some real improvements. Personally I tend to do POV Docking, with the POV entering a Futanari, Tentacle, or soemthing of that nature.
This is the only aspect in which I find jank, I have nice prompts set apart for multiple kinds but the end results are always a bit iffy(Merging penis mostly, but also general wonkyness)
Is there anything you can recommend to try and get more successful gens of this nature? Example images for reference
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=3441399&tags=aka6+pov
https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/en/posts/QyMkJpxN1Rk
https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/en/posts/xkrXANLlyRe
My Most successful gens tend to use the prompt -
" futa on male, taker pov anal, receiving pov, human male, taker pov anal, (femdom), on_top_penetrating, (futa top), (bottom POV), male pov, urethal penetration, pov_penetrated,"
At least for Pony, with Illustrious this combination hasn't worked so well. Any advice would be appreciated.
Also, if this particular pov position might be better with its own LORA, I'd be willing to talk commission.
If it makes any difference, I gen locally, I don't use Civit.
Well the main thing those tags don't match well with the tags I used in training. If you check the images in the examples you will get a decent idea of what tags to use. To imitate that first image you can use a prompt similar to this. " 2girls, futanari, cock docking, standing, pov, from above, urethral penetration, bedroom, detailed, motion lines, cum, penis size difference,large penis, small penis, clenched teeth, blonde, sweat, sitting, large breasts ", Which results in something like this. https://ibb.co/dxTNZft https://ibb.co/MxkYSC98