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    you like my content, support me at:

    https://ko-fi.com/duchaiten

    Patreon in here:
    https://linktr.ee/Duc_Haiten

    I created my discord server. I'm still quite new to discord server management, free to give opinions.

    https://discord.gg/vKEW6jqa49

    special note: Using the model is very simple, like the scores, but also not like the scores. The idea behind it is training based on various artistic styles of different artists and some unique AI models, arranging them into separate keywords (perhaps I should have made them numerical codes like score_1234 in Pony base, such as style_123—maybe next time I’ll do that). Each keyword corresponds to a different style, representing an artist or a uniquely special AI style. Users can call up just one keyword to bring out that style, but that’s not the main intention. What I aim for are unique style combinations. You can call up multiple styles at once, for example: A, B, C, or B, C, A, or C, A, B.

    Any change in the keywords or the order of the keywords will result in different outcomes. You can even use parentheses like (A) or (A:1.2) to increase or decrease the weight of a keyword. This combination and arrangement will turn the initial 55 styles into hundreds or thousands of different styles, and as long as you don’t reveal your style combinations and keywords, it will be a one-of-a-kind creation unique to you. That was my original intention when creating this project.

    Read more here:

    https://civarchive.com/articles/8523

    Because the image generator of civitai and automatic1111 are different, on civitai you need to set the number of steps about 10-15 steps higher than when using automatic1111.

    Update on October 16, 2024:

    Pony No Score v7, this will be a groundbreaking version that unlocks enormous potential for pony, marking the largest update to date. V7 integrates 55 styles into one model, each with separate trigger keywords, similar to how Pony previously added scores to the model. The goal is to create a model capable of producing a wide variety of artistic styles, rather than being limited to just a few that are difficult to control. Users can apply individual styles or combine different styles to create their own completely unique artistic vision. Once you hide your prompt and data, no one will know which style keywords you combined to craft such a distinct look—it will be uniquely yours.

    I will write a detailed guide on how to use the model along with a list of styles here, so everyone can gain a clearer understanding of what I’m aiming for.

    https://civarchive.com/articles/8105

    Update on September 8, 2024:

    Finally caught up with pony base v6 LOL. This is probably the last update, aside from bug fixes. I feel like I've reached the limit with pony v6, and adding anything more might cause issues elsewhere.

    Version 6.0 includes some anime data, better adjustments for NSFW, further tweaks to colors and lighting effects, and additional improvements in natural language.

    And the most important thing is earning money. Don’t be fooled by how popular this model seems. In reality, I work 15-16 hours a day, without taking a break, just to earn enough to reinvest in research and model training, with barely enough left to live on. So now I want to see how much I can make with this early access feature on my most popular model.

    Update on August 8, 2024:

    v5.1+v5.0+v4.0=v5.2

    Damn I forgot to turn on early access

    Version v5.2 works quite well both with and without scores

    Update on August 4, 2024:
    Version 5.1, a complete overhaul of the text encoder and adjustments to the U-net. Efforts have been made to minimize minor bugs from versions 5 and 4. Once again, the default importance level of the 3D style has been downgraded. I do not want 3D to be added to images if it is not explicitly mentioned in the prompt. Of course, if reducing the 3D style too much makes many people feel dissatisfied, I will adjust it again. So please let me know your thoughts on this adjusted version.

    The parameter settings I have tested:

    - Sampling method: Euler a

    - Schedule type: SGM Uniform

    - Sampling steps: 30-36

    - CFG Scale: 8-9

    Update on July 23, 2024:

    Welcome to pony no score v5. I tried to save it until pony base v6.9 was released, but the waiting period was too long, so I couldn't wait any longer and got to work immediately. I need it to have more soul, more artistic depth, and to convey emotions in each created image. I am fed up with the dryness of AI-generated art, which only looks beautiful but feels empty, unlike something truly nurtured from the creator's soul. I don't know if you understand what I mean, but that is what I am trying to achieve. Perhaps the most noticeable change for you is that the 3D style will be minimized, and the 2D drawing style will undergo slight modifications, with colors feeling more cinematic, and the lighting and shadows will be better and more realistic.

    Some other updates: improved text encoder, more shooting angles, more art and 2D data to replace Nijijourney data

    Recommended settings:

    Sampling method: DPM++ SDE

    Schedule type: SGM Uniform (this one is a must)

    Sampling steps: 30-36

    CFG Scale: 9

    update May 27, 2024:

    This will be the final version until pony base v7 comes out. In addition, the alpha 1 version of the pony-real model has been released, everyone can check it out, but don't expect much from the alpha.

    Thank you very much and apologies to Deathless, who helped me find and process around 8,000-10,000 image data for the pony-no-score version 4.0, whom I forgot to mention. So much happened in a short time that it gave me a headache. Fortunately, he reminded me, at least he didn't curse me out harshly LOL.

    (By the way, currently I'm doing everything alone again, if anyone is interested and willing to help prepare data for training my model, please feel free to contact me.)

    update May 22, 2024:

    Final beta version of v4, the next update will be its official version. When the official version of pony no score v4 is released, it will also be the day pony-realistic alpha will be uploaded

    updated May 14, 2024:

    Version 3.5 for Pony-no_score.

    - Edit the text encoder

    - Update more 3D image data

    - added more realistic skin models for 3d

    - reduce unnecessary details that are not in the prompt (creativity is a bit reduced but accuracy will be higher)

    - Enhance solid contours

    This is a separate version from v4 in training, so I need the most objective reviews.

    Update May 7, 2024:

    I must say that I am really surprised and happy to see everyone's warm reception for the DucHaiten-Pony-XL model (no-score). Each new version gets more attention than the previous version, it seems I'm still on the right track.

    To express my sincere thanks to everyone, I will post the v4 beta version first, everyone can try it out and give advice and suggestions for it. Note that because it is only a beta version, there will be many changes in the future.

    Update May 3, 2024:

    After hearing comments about v2 seeming to lose the diversity and balance of styles compared to v1, this time I tried to adjust that problem. In addition, a lot of new data has been added in v3. They are arranged to intersperse with Pony's previous data, with the purpose of supplementing and creating connections with each other. I do so with the desire to create a more complete ecosystem for ponies. But because I'm the only one doing it all on my own with such a small budget, I can only try to limit my abilities as much as possible. PS. Colors are more vivid and brighter.

    updated April 28, 2024:

    The upgraded version 2.0 will have many major changes, first is adding more handsome men data, next is improving weak natural language capabilities, and finally adding more artistic feeling to the model. There are also some smaller adjustments like details and lighting


    A model created from the original pony model and combined with my various models. I tried to keep almost all of pony's text encoder and only change the image data, so I recommend you learn more about pony if you don't know how to use "tag score" properly. When using this model, you will feel that the image is less random and don't has too many unnecessary details like the pony, and will feel smoother and cleaner, Eliminates the possibility that some prompts will produce harsh images or burnt colors, the face is made clearer, the hands, feet, and pose are adjusted for fewer errors. But if you gain one, you lose the other. It can only be said that each person has its own style, depending on your preferences.

    If you want to use my models to create unlimited images at a small cost without having to install anything, mage.space will be a good choice, i have some models that are exclusively available on there.

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    MesmerizeRMay 27, 2024· 4 reactions
    CivitAI

    Version 4.0 broke everything:( still amazing job, but 3.5 was better

    DucHaiten
    Author
    May 27, 2024

    Thank you, everyone has their own preferences, you can choose any version

    CexDroneJun 9, 2024

    @DucHaiten Could you make 3.0 available for on-site generation again?

    DucHaiten
    Author
    Jun 9, 2024· 1 reaction

    @CexDrone civitai only had two generators for me, they confiscated all the others across different models and versions of the models.

    kfccgcMay 27, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    May I ask what is the difference between v4.0 and 3.5?

    DucHaiten
    Author
    May 27, 2024· 1 reaction

    more 3d. some training images I divided them up because there were too many, so v4 has a lot of new images for data train. I also tried to balance between 2d and 3d, adjusting minor errors in the image generation process.

    DucHaiten
    Author
    May 27, 2024· 1 reaction

    You will also have a feeling of light and space having more relief and depth

    kucha0808May 28, 2024· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    有没有1.5的

    tiangjingabcMay 28, 2024· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    Where can I find VAE, my generated images look pale in color.

    DucHaiten
    Author
    May 28, 2024

    If the color is pale, you can add score tags like in the sample image

    tiangjingabcMay 28, 2024

    @DucHaiten Thanks a lot

    PonnieMay 29, 2024
    CivitAI

    works great but adetailer face only blurred the face, didn't fix it. It works alright with pony. Any ideas why?

    DucHaiten
    Author
    May 29, 2024

    I didn't encounter such a situation so I need more detailed information from your error image

    3974979May 30, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    I like this model, generally. Some interesting background setting variations and decent modeling results. It seems a bit wonky and requires a lot of prompt tweaking for NSFW results and, for some reason, it REALLY likes to put sunglasses on the heads of the models. It also seems to generate very slow in comparison to ponyv6

    Image posted by KosoArt (civitai.com)

    treebardMay 30, 2024· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    This model is a thing of beauty. Crisp, clear and aesthetic.

    TheBladesMay 31, 2024· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    It's a great checkpoint! Thanks for putting in the time and sharing with the community.

    This checkpoint can produce horrific horror pics. Some where so bad I didn't dare post them <-- Seriously

    Laugur3Jun 1, 2024
    CivitAI

    Easily my favorite model so far, the only thing we miss is a good impainting model to create more complexe scenes, but this is stylish, with nice flexibility, many body type, and faces inside, not as diverse as 1.5 could be, but the number of concept and poses are insane, this is a very good stylish, multiconcept horny model. but still suffering from the lack of tools and Impainting following SDXL variant, I hope the V3 base of SD will be the good one we could work on. You made a very good model, staying on the mix of 3d and anime, while not being shy in details and expressivness . I have the sensation you are pushing the boundaries of thoses models.

    DucHaiten
    Author
    Jun 2, 2024· 5 reactions
    CivitAI

    I created my discord server. I'm still quite new to discord server management, free to give opinions.

    https://discord.gg/FPhQvFsqe2

    BiggerIsBetterJun 10, 2024

    discord link expired or is invalid. Could you create a permanent one?

    DucHaiten
    Author
    Jun 10, 2024
    ONEPIPIJun 4, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    great!

    potowax203Jun 5, 2024· 9 reactions
    CivitAI

    Great base style, wow!

    I ended up prompting one-handed... Thank you for this excellent model!

    ValomarJun 6, 2024· 1 reaction

    Wait... one handed? Are you an amputee, sir?

    medvetko870Jun 7, 2024
    CivitAI

    While the model is great, I noticed that version 4.0 tends to produce identical girls for images with multiple girls. Version 3.5 was way more diverse - https://civitai.com/images/14912257

    DucHaiten
    Author
    Jun 7, 2024· 1 reaction

    Try writing detailed features of different girls in the same image, instead of leaving it random

    1417914001Jun 8, 2024
    CivitAI

    This model is the best I could find, but there is a serious problem, when I created some dark theme graphics, it was too brightly lit, I thought you could add some low-light, dark-themed lighting environments and go in, and besides, hopefully this checkpoint will generate more oriental costumes and backgrounds.

    460672106622Jun 9, 2024
    CivitAI

    How to generate 2D animation style, I wrote realistic in negative prompt words

    DucHaiten
    Author
    Jun 9, 2024

    you want anime, or comics, or some other special 2d style

    CatfansJun 10, 2024
    CivitAI

    I was able to make some amazing looking 3d Render looking pictures with it but for the last 5 or 7 days I am unable to generate any new pictures with it via this website. Has anyone else had this problem?

    DucHaiten
    Author
    Jun 10, 2024· 1 reaction

    Adjust the model again, because you may have previously created images in the old version, the generator in the old versions has been turned off by civitai.

    BluefireClubJun 12, 2024· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    It's an amazing tool but since a week or so doing the exact same prompt now resullts in a worse quality. I was going for a video game / render like look at now the lighting is flat, the skin color looks bad and the eyes/face weird. I wonder if there is a way change things back to an older version

    synthesizedartsJun 15, 2024
    CivitAI

    general question, do you guys use upscalers with this model?

    995854Jun 20, 2024
    CivitAI

    Cool model, I love it ! Does anyone have a list of the included characters though ? I couldn't find it if it even exists ^^

    sevenof9247Jun 21, 2024· 16 reactions
    CivitAI

    I would like to explain something ...
    only TOP Creators have the possibility to use the civitai-generation service ... all others do not ... BUT that does not mean that these models are the best "by far not"

    angela12Jun 22, 2024
    CivitAI

    nice model

    4039563Jun 23, 2024· 8 reactions
    CivitAI

    I’m continually impressed with the results, especially without using LoRAs. I don’t know what kind of black magic you have going on behind the scenes, but I appreciate your work. Keep it up!

    _Varos_Jun 28, 2024· 7 reactions
    CivitAI

    ⠀⠀Let's compare some PONY models 🦄

    ⠀⠀⠀⠀🌍 See here my detailed test 🌎

    BustyFanJun 28, 2024
    CivitAI

    I get absolutely amazing results for creating 3d renders of Ada Wong but with the prompt "from above" but every other angle the quality of her face changes drastically. Any advice on how to avoid that?

    jeriffJul 2, 2024· 6 reactions
    CivitAI

    What's the recommened settings for this model?

    Mister_KaosJul 10, 2024

    That depends on which generator you're using. If you're using CivitAI's generator, I would suggest looking at some of the examples in the gallery below. Find an image similar to what you want to generate and look at the settings used.

    If you're using an external generator like A1111, try searching images in the gallery that were generated with the same generator you use and copying the meta data. If I am not mistaken, most PDXL and SDXL checkpoints tend to require more steps in Civit than they would in A1111, so plan on adding at least 10 additional steps to any project in Civit.

    jeriffJul 11, 2024

    @Mister_Kaos your gravatar photo interesting...

    Rangiku209090Jul 11, 2024
    CivitAI

    Vae baked in?

    DucHaiten
    Author
    Jul 11, 2024

    I don't think to this day models still have to use an external vae, that only happened in the days of SD1.4, and SD1.5 base.

    SinonkaZlp1Jul 12, 2024

    @DucHaiten  so why do some XL models and so on have VAE?

    DucHaiten
    Author
    Jul 12, 2024

    @SinonkaZlp1 Usually when training it will have extra vae, so unless they want to use a different vae, or they have previously deleted the vae to make the model lighter

    INONAME1130Jul 18, 2024
    CivitAI

    出图轻松愉快 做的好