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    you like my content, support me at:

    https://ko-fi.com/duchaiten

    Patreon in here:
    https://linktr.ee/Duc_Haiten

    I created my discord server. I'm still quite new to discord server management, free to give opinions.

    https://discord.gg/vKEW6jqa49

    special note: Using the model is very simple, like the scores, but also not like the scores. The idea behind it is training based on various artistic styles of different artists and some unique AI models, arranging them into separate keywords (perhaps I should have made them numerical codes like score_1234 in Pony base, such as style_123—maybe next time I’ll do that). Each keyword corresponds to a different style, representing an artist or a uniquely special AI style. Users can call up just one keyword to bring out that style, but that’s not the main intention. What I aim for are unique style combinations. You can call up multiple styles at once, for example: A, B, C, or B, C, A, or C, A, B.

    Any change in the keywords or the order of the keywords will result in different outcomes. You can even use parentheses like (A) or (A:1.2) to increase or decrease the weight of a keyword. This combination and arrangement will turn the initial 55 styles into hundreds or thousands of different styles, and as long as you don’t reveal your style combinations and keywords, it will be a one-of-a-kind creation unique to you. That was my original intention when creating this project.

    Read more here:

    https://civarchive.com/articles/8523

    Because the image generator of civitai and automatic1111 are different, on civitai you need to set the number of steps about 10-15 steps higher than when using automatic1111.

    Update on October 16, 2024:

    Pony No Score v7, this will be a groundbreaking version that unlocks enormous potential for pony, marking the largest update to date. V7 integrates 55 styles into one model, each with separate trigger keywords, similar to how Pony previously added scores to the model. The goal is to create a model capable of producing a wide variety of artistic styles, rather than being limited to just a few that are difficult to control. Users can apply individual styles or combine different styles to create their own completely unique artistic vision. Once you hide your prompt and data, no one will know which style keywords you combined to craft such a distinct look—it will be uniquely yours.

    I will write a detailed guide on how to use the model along with a list of styles here, so everyone can gain a clearer understanding of what I’m aiming for.

    https://civarchive.com/articles/8105

    Update on September 8, 2024:

    Finally caught up with pony base v6 LOL. This is probably the last update, aside from bug fixes. I feel like I've reached the limit with pony v6, and adding anything more might cause issues elsewhere.

    Version 6.0 includes some anime data, better adjustments for NSFW, further tweaks to colors and lighting effects, and additional improvements in natural language.

    And the most important thing is earning money. Don’t be fooled by how popular this model seems. In reality, I work 15-16 hours a day, without taking a break, just to earn enough to reinvest in research and model training, with barely enough left to live on. So now I want to see how much I can make with this early access feature on my most popular model.

    Update on August 8, 2024:

    v5.1+v5.0+v4.0=v5.2

    Damn I forgot to turn on early access

    Version v5.2 works quite well both with and without scores

    Update on August 4, 2024:
    Version 5.1, a complete overhaul of the text encoder and adjustments to the U-net. Efforts have been made to minimize minor bugs from versions 5 and 4. Once again, the default importance level of the 3D style has been downgraded. I do not want 3D to be added to images if it is not explicitly mentioned in the prompt. Of course, if reducing the 3D style too much makes many people feel dissatisfied, I will adjust it again. So please let me know your thoughts on this adjusted version.

    The parameter settings I have tested:

    - Sampling method: Euler a

    - Schedule type: SGM Uniform

    - Sampling steps: 30-36

    - CFG Scale: 8-9

    Update on July 23, 2024:

    Welcome to pony no score v5. I tried to save it until pony base v6.9 was released, but the waiting period was too long, so I couldn't wait any longer and got to work immediately. I need it to have more soul, more artistic depth, and to convey emotions in each created image. I am fed up with the dryness of AI-generated art, which only looks beautiful but feels empty, unlike something truly nurtured from the creator's soul. I don't know if you understand what I mean, but that is what I am trying to achieve. Perhaps the most noticeable change for you is that the 3D style will be minimized, and the 2D drawing style will undergo slight modifications, with colors feeling more cinematic, and the lighting and shadows will be better and more realistic.

    Some other updates: improved text encoder, more shooting angles, more art and 2D data to replace Nijijourney data

    Recommended settings:

    Sampling method: DPM++ SDE

    Schedule type: SGM Uniform (this one is a must)

    Sampling steps: 30-36

    CFG Scale: 9

    update May 27, 2024:

    This will be the final version until pony base v7 comes out. In addition, the alpha 1 version of the pony-real model has been released, everyone can check it out, but don't expect much from the alpha.

    Thank you very much and apologies to Deathless, who helped me find and process around 8,000-10,000 image data for the pony-no-score version 4.0, whom I forgot to mention. So much happened in a short time that it gave me a headache. Fortunately, he reminded me, at least he didn't curse me out harshly LOL.

    (By the way, currently I'm doing everything alone again, if anyone is interested and willing to help prepare data for training my model, please feel free to contact me.)

    update May 22, 2024:

    Final beta version of v4, the next update will be its official version. When the official version of pony no score v4 is released, it will also be the day pony-realistic alpha will be uploaded

    updated May 14, 2024:

    Version 3.5 for Pony-no_score.

    - Edit the text encoder

    - Update more 3D image data

    - added more realistic skin models for 3d

    - reduce unnecessary details that are not in the prompt (creativity is a bit reduced but accuracy will be higher)

    - Enhance solid contours

    This is a separate version from v4 in training, so I need the most objective reviews.

    Update May 7, 2024:

    I must say that I am really surprised and happy to see everyone's warm reception for the DucHaiten-Pony-XL model (no-score). Each new version gets more attention than the previous version, it seems I'm still on the right track.

    To express my sincere thanks to everyone, I will post the v4 beta version first, everyone can try it out and give advice and suggestions for it. Note that because it is only a beta version, there will be many changes in the future.

    Update May 3, 2024:

    After hearing comments about v2 seeming to lose the diversity and balance of styles compared to v1, this time I tried to adjust that problem. In addition, a lot of new data has been added in v3. They are arranged to intersperse with Pony's previous data, with the purpose of supplementing and creating connections with each other. I do so with the desire to create a more complete ecosystem for ponies. But because I'm the only one doing it all on my own with such a small budget, I can only try to limit my abilities as much as possible. PS. Colors are more vivid and brighter.

    updated April 28, 2024:

    The upgraded version 2.0 will have many major changes, first is adding more handsome men data, next is improving weak natural language capabilities, and finally adding more artistic feeling to the model. There are also some smaller adjustments like details and lighting


    A model created from the original pony model and combined with my various models. I tried to keep almost all of pony's text encoder and only change the image data, so I recommend you learn more about pony if you don't know how to use "tag score" properly. When using this model, you will feel that the image is less random and don't has too many unnecessary details like the pony, and will feel smoother and cleaner, Eliminates the possibility that some prompts will produce harsh images or burnt colors, the face is made clearer, the hands, feet, and pose are adjusted for fewer errors. But if you gain one, you lose the other. It can only be said that each person has its own style, depending on your preferences.

    If you want to use my models to create unlimited images at a small cost without having to install anything, mage.space will be a good choice, i have some models that are exclusively available on there.

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    Comments (42)

    DLT8KSep 8, 2024· 15 reactions
    CivitAI

    I would purchase the early access if it was able to create on civitai

    SOUU_Sep 9, 2024· 5 reactions
    CivitAI

    綺麗

    Dear_AgonySep 10, 2024· 6 reactions
    CivitAI

    I just started using 5.2 and then a new one came out 😳 I spent all my savings on your model 😊 Thank you very much! It's very interesting, we'll study it 😁

    Dear_AgonySep 10, 2024· 2 reactions

    Simply a great model! Now my favorite for sure 😍

    237655Sep 10, 2024· 4 reactions
    CivitAI

    Really great!

    GitarooManSep 12, 2024· 5 reactions
    CivitAI

    Thanks bro! Supporting your early access <3

    DucHaiten
    Author
    Sep 12, 2024

    Thanks <3

    worm52Sep 12, 2024· 4 reactions
    CivitAI

    Really great!

    Danielkb3Sep 13, 2024· 6 reactions
    CivitAI

    Long time fan, and this update does NOT disappoint!

    outrider95Sep 20, 2024· 4 reactions
    CivitAI

    Do you have Alipay? It's too difficult to make payments for you in China, and it's hard for us to use international trading platforms

    DucHaiten
    Author
    Sep 20, 2024

    Paypal can't be used?

    yatoroameameSep 24, 2024

    @DucHaiten PayPal对于中国用户是有门槛的,大部分人不知道如何使用

    knightsky_gmSep 22, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    Will this become available for generations on Civitai, too? The results look so good!

    DucHaiten
    Author
    Sep 23, 2024· 2 reactions

    i need to tell mods to enable it

    infernahermit846Sep 23, 2024· 7 reactions
    CivitAI

    v6 is everything i wanted from an anime/2.5d semi realistic/cartoonish pony model ever.

    MatreSep 23, 2024· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    I don't know how to generate good images in v6, can someone give me tips please?

    DucHaiten
    Author
    Sep 24, 2024· 2 reactions

    Adding score tags can improve the image, just follow the sample image

    DucHaiten
    Author
    Sep 24, 2024· 7 reactions
    CivitAI

    It seems like many people forgot to switch to version v6.0, or do people still prefer to use version v5.2?

    Dear_AgonySep 24, 2024· 2 reactions

    Definitely v6 is better in everything 😊

    IceB2Sep 24, 2024· 3 reactions

    @Dear_Agony I second that 😊

    AfgmcSep 24, 2024· 3 reactions

    OK, so I've only run off about 100 A/B comparison images and maybe it's just my prompting or I have weird eyes or something, but I'm leaning towards V5.2. If there's just random stuff in an image, V6.0 seems to produce actual real-life items rather than indeterminate-looking "things", which I guess is good in a lot (but not all) cases, but it's the lighting I don't like - it seems flatter or something like that. I'm sure I can fix this with a bit of prompting, but just on straight A/B comparisons with relatively simple prompts, I'm prefering the V5.2 image almost every time.

    Edited to add: Yeah, I can see from the V6.0 images posted that they look pretty good, I need to investigate this some more to see why my images are "flat". And yes, I am using score tags.

    PalpsfilesSep 25, 2024· 4 reactions

    I forgot to switch, I just remembered today while making tea that I should switch.

    DucHaiten
    Author
    Sep 25, 2024· 3 reactions

    @Afgmc every time i train new to give updates i always touch both text encoder and image data of Unet so it can lead to some old prompts needing some adjustment to be as desired, but i tried to keep it from changing too much from V5.2. but each person has a different way of using and artistic concept and preferences so my concept can not be used as correct to apply to everyone

    Danielkb3Sep 25, 2024· 1 reaction

    I got 6.0 early access and fell in love lol

    AfgmcSep 25, 2024· 1 reaction

    @DucHaiten after some more experimentation with people's V6.0 posts here, it seems to me that V5.2 is more tolerant of very short prompts than V6.0. As prompts get shorter, then depending randomly on the seed, the image can get flatter and develop a distinct color cast. So the solution is simply for me to use longer prompts.

    ssdzhSep 24, 2024· 5 reactions
    CivitAI

    请问这个大模型可以用来训练Lora吗?自带VAE吗?有什么参数需要调整?

    DucHaiten
    Author
    Sep 24, 2024· 1 reaction

    you can absolutely use it to train lora, vae is not necessary to add anymore because it is already available in the model. you just need to use the parameters as with the sample image

    ssdzhSep 24, 2024

    @DucHaiten 好的 谢谢解答

    yatoroameameSep 24, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    我将所有的buzz全部交给你了,希望能给予一些微不足道的支持

    DucHaiten
    Author
    Sep 25, 2024· 1 reaction

    每一份支持都值得被尊重,无论多少,毕竟这是对正版的支持,而不是对盗版的支持。老实说,我没想到我有这么多中国粉丝,我知道由于地域限制,大家在接触到我的正版产品时可能会遇到一些困难。因此,我有时在想,是否有办法能让中国的朋友们更容易地接触到我的产品。

    8693386422Sep 25, 2024

    @DucHaiten In China, there is a website called LIBLIB, which is similar to CIVITAI. I think if you post your model on it, you will get more support. One of my beginner friends can get money even for training some simple LORAs.

    DucHaiten
    Author
    Sep 26, 2024

    @8693386422 At times like these, we see the importance of having a Chinese friend we trust enough to cooperate with. LOL

    boysshareSep 26, 2024· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    The image of v6 is too dark, are there any good prompt words to recommend?

    zolomon64Sep 27, 2024· 6 reactions
    CivitAI

    What a fun model, can generate a very good giraffe image.

    DucHaiten
    Author
    Sep 27, 2024· 1 reaction

    That's all you want to do with my model :)))))

    AexetanSep 28, 2024

    @DucHaiten do you REALLY wanna know what do with that giraffe tho?

    flow3882Sep 27, 2024· 6 reactions
    CivitAI

    how do u give feedback

    hikingferalOct 1, 2024· 2 reactions

    I mean you kind of just did but failed horribly.

    littoralcomix475Sep 30, 2024· 7 reactions
    CivitAI

    This model is just brilliant, thanks!

    DjojiOct 4, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    Your Lora is on Top

    yuni969Oct 13, 2024· 5 reactions
    CivitAI

    best model ever in my eyes

    VernonBennettOct 15, 2024· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    Really enjoying this model. It's produced some of my favourites so far.