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    馃寛 epiCRainbowDash - 馃悗 TOO - The one and Only
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    I dont get that PONY hype but here u go with somewhat trained for Photorealism, pretty hard tho. Don't think i will improve further.

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    0l1v1aR0551Jun 28, 202424 reactions
    CivitAI

    Pony's hype is not just about NSFW, but mostly about its nice prompt responsiveness in terms of posing humans - because it was trained on booru tags, which (unfortunately) describe the scene better than any other tag system (at least for now). And NSFW simply relies heavily on that prompt responsiveness. Kind of a closed loop ;)

    epinikion
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    Jun 28, 20241 reaction

    I don't really agree, i get better results with my XL Model even for posing prompts. But hey, just wanted to join the party, probably it is useful for at least someone :D

    0l1v1aR0551Jun 28, 20243 reactions

    @epinikion聽I was extensively testing your model, and for everything photorealistic - it is amazing, but for multitude of NSFW poses "normal" SDXL models are just not the right tool

    epinikion
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    Jun 28, 20241 reaction

    @OliviaRossi聽Okay, probably due to the lack of time i missed all the pony specific use cases 馃槃 And maybe i've other preferences

    stable_diffusion_espanolJun 28, 20243 reactions

    yeap @OliviaRossi is 110% right! Pony is not only NSFW (but, for the love of god, Pony is the best in the human anatomy) but it麓s the best on prompt interpretation and that is because it was training on booru tags. I'm a big fan of all the pony models and I reflected it on my youtube channel, now the community only use pony hahaha

    0l1v1aR0551Jun 28, 20241 reaction

    @stable_diffusion_espanol聽agree, that Pony method of training is superior for all future models, since we as humans want to see interaction and posing mostly of humans in images

    0l1v1aR0551Jun 28, 20241 reaction

    @epinikion there is a small but also important detail - Pony was trained on semi-realistic/cartoonish images = it looks that this is the reason why it is able to "draw" human hands and fingers way better (not only overall pose), and as soon as we push Pony to realistic generation that ability diminishes visibly

    DigitalAFJun 28, 20242 reactions

    @OliviaRossi The prompt responsiveness what the first thing that impressed me the most with Pony, but I still see so many post where the image is undoubtedly incredible, yet when you look at the prompt, it doesn't line up. Seems like most rely on loras to shape the generation, I've been searching for a pony model that ultimately does what you want before adding a bunch of loras. I've always loved @epinikion models, your work is amazing.

    0l1v1aR0551Jun 28, 2024

    @DigitalAF聽LORAs are only necessary for Pony when it is blind (untrained) for some NSFW stuff like fisting or some particular sex positions or outfits, but mostly LORAs are only used for style (and that is the same as with regular SDXL models)

    fallenmysticJul 2, 20241 reaction

    @epinikion聽Pony needs a specific way of prompting (i.e. Danbooru tags) to see its benefits. A typical prompt that works best with Pony looks like "score_9, score_8_up, score_7_up, BREAK, [a short natural language description], [list of Danbooru tags like '1girl', 'blonde_hair' and so on]".

    There's no denying that Pony models are best for NSFW content, but I recommend experimenting with prompting styles if you haven't already.

    I use this site to search the tags and their respective popularity before including in my prompt, by the way:
    https://nsk.sh/tools/danbooru-tags-explorer

    andycocoJun 28, 20243 reactions
    CivitAI

    hello @epinikion, Maybe you can train base on this model or use its dataset, there may be surprising results.

    https://github.com/cosmicman-cvpr2024/CosmicMan

    epinikion
    Author
    Jun 28, 20241 reaction

    Remind me when there is a Automatic1111 Checkpoint Format 馃槄

    andycocoJun 28, 2024

    @epinikion聽Just replace the Unet of any Diffusers model.

    https://huggingface.co/cosmicman/CosmicMan-SDXL/tree/main

    epinikion
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    Jun 29, 2024

    @andycoco聽Do you have any tool or script for that?

    andycocoJun 29, 20242 reactions

    @epinikion聽
    # 1

    # checkpoint to diffusers

    # from https://github.com/huggingface/diffusers/blob/main/scripts/convert_original_stable_diffusion_to_diffusers.py

    python3 convert_original_stable_diffusion_to_diffusers.py --extract_ema --from_safetensors --to_safetensors --image_size 1024 --original_config_file sd_xl_base.yaml --pipeline_class_name StableDiffusionXLPipeline --checkpoint_path epiCRealismXL.safetensors --dump_path CosmicMan

    # 2

    # Replace unet, diffusion_pytorch_model.safetensors and config.json

    # from https://huggingface.co/cosmicman/CosmicMan-SDXL/tree/main

    # 3

    # diffusers to checkpoint

    # form https://github.com/huggingface/diffusers/blob/main/scripts/convert_diffusers_to_original_sdxl.py

    python3 convert_diffusers_to_original_sdxl.py --use_safetensors --model_path CosmicMan --checkpoint_path CosmicMan.safetensors

    epinikion
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    Jun 29, 20242 reactions

    @andycoco聽Have to try that when I鈥檓 able to, thank you for the well explained steps 鉂わ笍

    RalFingerJun 30, 2024

    @andycoco thanks for sharing!

    delrisuJun 28, 20242 reactions
    CivitAI

    It's most photorealistic looking Pony model I've ever tried. That said it sometimes have problems following prompt. Still 10/10 tho <3

    slartibart353Jun 28, 2024

    I agree with you - I changed your PROMPT a little and am speechless with enthusiasm!

    slartibart353Jun 28, 2024
    CivitAI

    Improve your result by using cyberrealistic_V50 Hires.fix with a modified prompt. better skin, keeping the great Pony output

    Pony: https://civitai.com/images/17603769

    with Cyberrealistic_V50 Hires.fix: https://civitai.com/images/17603767

    arnorwingJun 28, 2024

    Results look great. So you're saying switch to CyberV50 for the hires fix step? What sort of Hires prompt are you using and How many steps and denoise?

    slartibart353Jun 28, 20241 reaction

    @arnorwing聽

    Upscaler: 4x_NMKD-Superscale-SP_178000_G Upscale 1,5

    Hires Sampler: DPM++ 2M SDE Karras

    Hire steps 100

    Denoising 0.26

    pos: raw photo, {prompt}, uhd, 8k, film grain,

    neg: (deformed iris, deformed pupils, semi-realistic, cgi, 3d, render, sketch, cartoon, drawing, anime, mutated hands and fingers:1.4), (deformed, distorted, disfigured:1.3), poorly drawn, bad anatomy, wrong anatomy, extra limb, missing limb, floating limbs, disconnected limbs, mutation, mutated, ugly, disgusting, amputation, (artist name, signature, watermark:1.4), (ugly:1.2), (worst quality, poor details:1.4),

    AptronymJun 29, 20246 reactions

    @slartibart353聽100 hires steps? That's just a waste of time.

    arnorwingJun 29, 2024

    @Aptronym聽yes I agree. I currently use 6 steps .3 denoise, in my testing of upto 20steps there is no worthwhile difference. 100 steps would take ~10minutes on a 3090.

    epinikion
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    Jun 29, 20241 reaction

    @arnorwing @Aptronym聽聽Use half of your normal steps. E.g. 30 Steps = 15 hires steps, simple math for 2x upscale everything more can slightly improve details but not worth

    slartibart353Jun 29, 2024

    @epinikion聽agreed... 4090 here - 45 secs ;-) but 15 steps does not work for me - lost details when usind SD1.5 hires.fix

    epinikion
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    Jun 29, 20241 reaction

    @slartibart353聽Also depends on the upscaler, give a try to the newer DAT ones like 4xNomos8kDAT

    deagzzzJul 2, 2024
    CivitAI

    is this better than pony realism?

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