it's on the instructions of the model:

V1 started out as a mix of my personal unreleased SDXL finetune with such wonderful checkpoints as bigASP and Pyro's NSFW. Then I've finetuned this mix on a curated dataset of 1000 pics for aesthetic tweak.
For V2 I've merged V1 with the incredible NatVis (20%) and then trained on new 1700 pics for additional 26 535 steps.
V3 is a DARE merge of V1 and V2 that is then trained further. Why? Because I wanted to get V1's porn capabilities and V2's lighting+prompt adherence.

So yeah it has BigASP and Natvis. What i don't know if it includes BigASP2 or Natvis2. There's a big leap between 4 and 5 version. But yeah, it's a trained model too. A hybrid model that is better than the sum of its parts.

TLDR: Download it.

@coyotte So, will you stay?

@coyotte To make DamnPonyv4? You mentioned the community.

@coyotte Than make an Illustrious finetune:)

@coyotte My initial comment seemed polite and respectful. Yet Ive been met with an unnecessarily aggressive, defensive, dismissive, and condescending reply. I was really more worried about using up all my data. I know a lot of work goes into merges, Ive done thousands of merges myself, but due to my data capped internet Im unable to upload them. If I uploaded a good merge every-time I created one Id blow through my monthly data cap within a week. Maybe my comment mentioning having merged natvis and bigasp in the past into my own personal model and achieving good results, could be perceived as a comparison/dismissive to your model.

But, I strongly feel like my original post was not the trigger of this aggression and that your aggressive reply stems from something else I may have done. Maybe my comment about people who post merges was a bit rude, but its only because 99% of people that post merges NEVER credit the people/authors that trained the models in their merges.

I cant remember what else could have triggered such a response from you other than maybe me leaving comments on lora's made with very heated political statements(GAZA/Isreal/MAGA/TRUMP/ETC) that has divided the community. I dont remember any other time we have interacted online, this may be the first. Which is why I'm so puzzled as to why I was met with such an aggressive reply, it felt so personal. Yet I'm over here like Thanos saying "I dont even know who you are".

You do realize Im not even the worst type of AI normie right? over at r/stablediffusion the community is filled with super toxic AI normies that are the most entitled toddlers in the world.

@fox23vang226 wow, data capped net. On what continent do you live, if i could ask?

@salvatorefalon428 The remote outbacks of Alaska. Only satellite gets out here and cell towers, both data capped services.

@fox23vang226 Yes Alaska. I always wondered, in Us there is a lot of place, which cant access to unlimited net. Than your question is proper and understandable.

@coyotte All Good bro, Im autistic so I often don't pick up on social ques like most people do and often can come off as rude or obtuse so Im mostly used to it; being misunderstood.

@fox23vang226  You two guys are real man. misunderstanding but apology and acception. good.

@coyotte skill issue :D

my images are made in comfy too :/

@coyotte Just let it create 30 images with same prompt, appeared 4 times. 5 if counting something that looks a bit like one. Funnily enough all of them coming out of human's mouths, like a cigarette.

@coyotte I have to say though, absolutely brilliant model!

@coyotte Yep yep, trying to get a mafia peep smoke a cigar but like 90% of the cases it turns out bad. And also another case where I am trying to make a peep run (mafia peep this time too lol) and the leg is weirdly jig-jagged.

@coyotte soon? :)))

Oh yes, I remember i had a lot of "same face" with the previous version: V.4. I somewhat fixed that by merging v4 with another checkpoint. Yeah the watermarks/text are strong in Lustify. I normally don't care but yeah it does that a lot, and I understand your concerns. Negative prompts don't do much either.

Watermarks add real life appealing, i love them.

En fait les checkpoints sont entrainés pour une génération spécifique et dans ce cas c'est pour des relations, oriente toi vers un model qui fait plus de solo si tu veux du solo ;)

@rachidlamouchi13790 tu peut me conseiller un model qui fait bien du solo ?

@adriencazanave287 désolé je viens de voir à peine ton message, je te conseille de parcourir les images du site et télécharger celles qui te plaisent, ensuite tu les déposer dans "png info" sur StableDiffusion et tu pourras les générer à ton tour, ensuite tu modifies le prompt ç ta sauce et tu randomise le seed et voilà. de cette manière tu sauras quel model avec quel prompt pour générer ce que tu aimes

SHIFT? whats that

Shift?

what are you talking about?

what node to use to to do model shift for sdxl in comfy ?

Checkpoint is already "realism" you donut.

you make me have endless question just now - _ -;;;

I don't know about your prompts but for me, "dress, huge breasts, cleavage", consistently results in large(r) breasts but with clothing present. For example: https://civitai.com/posts/9998646

@coyotte Not always easy thinking out of your cozy box. I specially didnt know, what is diffusion capable for, before i moved on Pony.

If i want full legs i add socks or thighhighs or shoes, if i want hands, i add nails etc. But i spent too much time on 1.5 and Xl, and was hard to think creatively.

@abrieltorry324 "full body" works wonders for me.

What settings are you running and do you use soft inpainting? I use both webuis and comfy so disregard that last part if you use comfy, although gaussian mask blur is pretty much the same thing.

Forge with soft inpainting.

how do you run a DMD2 with a second sampler?

i'm not sure tbh, i use foocus with lcm/turbo at 10 steps.

What characters you think for? Names?

Yes, celebs works like in normal sdxl

@Oppkllll I have the opposite experience. Celeb likeness and lora likeness is poor.

Do not use negative prompts, only necessary. They have big impact

@Oppkllll Ok, V5 has a bit better likeness, than V4. I didnt try v5 before, because of this.

I prompted Selen Gomez only without negative. Result is not good, but acceptable.

Definitive? Sure. In terms of generating genuinely photo-realistic NSFW content that doesn't fall into the typical uncanny valley/doll-like human models that every single Pony based checkpoint falls into (even all the ones that have the word "real" in its name).

It's "SDXL realism" but naughty. And with better anatomy too.

It is not, however, the definitive SDXL model for generating the highest quality professional-looking images of real-life people with intricately detailed backgrounds. Other SDXL models, like ZavyChromaXL, do a noticeably better job out-of-the-box in this department.

But ZavyChromaXL isn't good for porn so here we are :-)

@Ziyi1990 Yes, there are compromises in other areas, but for pure NSFW generation in SDXL this is probably as good as it will get.

it's on the top for sure, but its far from "definitive"... try BigLoveXL checkpoint.

@null It's not really that good

I second that question!

@sixninepp It's always over until the next urge...

@coyotte I dont know. BigAsp has everything, but not manually selected high quality data. The dataset captioned auto, and the result is underwhelming. How many picture did you use to create Lustify v5 or whole series?

To an extent but I believe the majority of the community has either shifted to Flux and/or are still far too infatuated with the endless possibilities of Pony - which, by the way, is great for anatomy and understanding lots of different concepts that you wouldn't get with a standard SDXL finetuned model, but pretty much terrible at giving you "Midjourney" level, or high-level detailed photography with a professional touch. And of course, not to mention, it's really awful at photo-realism. Yes it is awful. Anyone with experienced eyes can immediately distinguish if something is generated with Pony.

Furthermore, with the recent release of SD 3.5 by Stability, SDXL is pretty much dead in the water right now if you're looking for advancements. So if you need something that truly succeeds SDXL, then SD 3.5 is the way to go. Far more versatile and flexible than Flux in terms of training, is claimed to have noticeably higher prompt adherence than Flux, is claimed to have similar quality to Flux, and should be far better than SDXL in anatomy.

Essentially, you'd need to wait until the holidays are over because all activity usually grinds to a halt during this period, and hopefully by the end of January, we should see more finetuned models based on SD 3.5 which, in my opinion, should be the de facto model that anyone chasing good quality photo-realism based on truly open-weights should shift over to.

Flux is not the way to go because it is not truly "open".

@Ziyi1990 How do you know, there will be good finetunes for 3.5. At the release everybody hyped, because it seemed, it will be easier to train. But after months nobody seems to care about it anymore. Every tech guys returned to Flux.

A1111 and Forge dont even support, which is a big downside for 3.5

@null  ..hey there . flux what ! , i'm interference on i7 4770k CPU ...

and without tools like lightning and dmd2 . i was not been able to even explore sdxl..

i don't understand reasons the high developers only focus on people who can buy 1k dollars nvidia gpus < intel CPU users ?? lol , i'm at end of 2024 year and still can't get my first nvidia xx80 xx90 GPU ..

@null no

@coyotte ahh man i understand i hope you will do well, i understand sometimes life throws a lot , good and bad... hopefully you will feel better.. and dont give up on yourself.. thanks alot for this piece of work

@coyotte Your work was very well done. You need to rest. Thank you.

@coyotte I wish you all the best!

@coyotte ah. my manic phases aren't quite as severe as yours but i think i can relate. if you can find a healthy way forward, cool. if you think you can hand off your work to someone else, I'd be happy to give it a try with 2 machines with 4070s or build a model-crunching specific machine if necessary.

in any case, thank you * 1000 for everything you've done so far. if / when you're ready to work on this stuff again, please let us know what we can do to help.

@coyotte nice, thanks, your tip works great!

Never mind, I see your response to amazingbeauty has some good advice.

If you want to improve face, you better use FaceDetailer node in ComfyUI. Here is tutorial about:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_KuX45clP8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwEcGIBwsyw
If you want workflow for FaceDetailer: https://disk.yandex.ru/d/n7gToqkjOyoy_g

@xNzX  hey thanks that worked really good, btw do you know how to improve nipples its a drama too

@sonic4life170 Know nothing about nipples style changing :) I think for nipples better way is find a LoRa with nipples style what you want. Site search has 'over 1000' results with 'nipple' in order – https://civitai.com/search/models?sortBy=models_v9&query=nipple

@sonic4life170 Also, for fast and useful face correction you can use FaceRestore node, or FaseSwap node for ComfyUI – https://github.com/Gourieff/comfyui-reactor-node
But take a note - face swap to any celebrity face prohibited by site policies. Use only beautyful, but not celebrity faces :)

@xNzX hey thanks man yeah no illegal stuff ofcourse.

@sonic4life170 Take a look at THIS workflow @_@ – https://civitai.com/images/47182783 (load PNG image as workflow)
Guy using FaceDetailer node for BoobDetailer, HandDetailer, PussyDetailer e.t.c.
Looks awesome :) crazy! :)

Flux cant do hardcore, no matter what. If the smart tech guys crack the shitty t5, then it will be capable.

@culleyvirgilio346 Ah ha... that's the reason I couldn't find any hc level nsfw model in flux. thx for your info.

@culleyvirgilio346 i understand now

Don't prompt for ass, breast or pussy. If you want big breasts behind clothes, rather use curvy. If you want small breasts behind clothes, rather prompt slim. Avoid any sexual/nudity stuff in the prompt and, of course, describe the clothes. Rather place nude in the negative. You get the idea. Talk to the model as you would talk to a nun and not a prostitute.

@SubtleShader This is great advice thanks ☺️ I will try it

high res fix or adetailer work really well for improving eyes on this model I have found

yeah thats my problem also, with most models, i have eyes drama nipples drama, but facedetailer in comfyui helps a lot... still wish this could be improved in another lustify model grrr, the results are good with lustify overall

just have to generate enough images and eventually you'll get good eyes..

img2img works great in this, controlnet openpose + normalmap or try any openpose + controlnet combination, search for all in one controlnet model -> controlnet-union-sdxl-1.0

Have you tried the word "blowjob" with a negative of "tongue"

What on earth would possibly possess you to want to do this

@FrogMachine simply because it is missing and especially to spread an ethical message when generating images

not sure what's particularly ethical about condoms lmao

@marstrix797 @shapeshifter83 Yea condoms are about as ethical as catholics

try to increase the steps gradually

@CNVR378 um, what could that possibly have to do with it? if the tokens in my negative have less effect at step 32, there's no reason they would suddenly have more effect at step 64 or 96

Besides, it's not something I'm trying to fix, just an observation.

@shapeshifter83 with the increasing the steps you give more time to the model workout your prompts, especially if you have lot of positive or negative prompts. I had same observation and increasing the steps solved it.

"cleavage"

I just blew your mind

Try "chest," e.g. small chest, medium chest, large chest.

have you managed to have a constant and faithful result with lora of people with this model?

i found out that sometimes just type , nipples, big nipples, together with big tits help lol

Top 5 for sure, but the absolute best might be a battle with BigLove XL1 (similar quality, maybe even a touch better in some aspect, I mean they are both amazing models anyway)

Same question... I have blurry or washed out result when trying to train on the DMD2 version. Did you managed to get a good result ?
I'll try on the base Lustify version (non DMD2) to see if it's better.

@Magna401 did you figured something out I am also getting blurred results

Set the sampler to LCM and reduce the guidance(cfg) to 1. You can play with the scheduler and step count (though I don't think there's any point in going above 10).

That worked @Lathos thanks!!!

@Lathos THANKS! it works on cfg 2 too

@Lathos Brilliant. This solved my problem as well

I’m currently testing the lustifySDXLNSFW_v40DMD2.safetensors model using the LCM sampling method, and I’m genuinely impressed by its performance. The way it consistently maintains accuracy in facial features is remarkable, and the hands—often a challenging area for models—are near perfect as well. I can’t help but be amazed at how lifelike the results are.

That said, it’s also somewhat unsettling because of how realistic the outputs can be. This brings me to a concern: do you think there’s a potential danger in generating faces or settings that resemble real people or locations? The idea of inadvertently (or intentionally) recreating something that exists in reality raises ethical and legal questions. I’d love to hear your perspective on the implications of this.

You high fructose corn syrup brained fools, this was clearly high praise.

I can't get the DMD2 model to work in Fooocus, it always generates blurry images with spots etc. All other Lustify models are fine. Which settings for the DDM2 model do you use e.g. for sampler and scheduler? With Juggernaut Lightning I don't have any problem.

Try typing 'nipple bulge', it works for me. Hope this helps...

@MirandoPaCuenca it worked, thanks!

The model generalizes female features and if you have too much of them you get a female.

Try adding femboy and twink or experiment with adding boy/girl at different places. If the genitals are not in frame you're golden but if they are, try adding penis explicitly. That being said it seems like there aren't many types of penises, i could not get a flaccid penis working. But still one of the best model for this.

use random names

I been trying, tried WD14 but despite loads of face pics it struggles with getting the face even after like 3k steps on 1e4

@Gentlemanbunny I managed to make a good LoRA after a fair bit of experimentation. This was my process

Captioning
- Caption with JoyCaption Alpha Two using the Booru-like tag option with medium length
- Take caption and run it through Lustify and adjust until it looks as close to my image as possible
- Remove all character related tags (hair colour, ethnicity, age etc)
- Use ohwx woman as the character tag

Training
- Used regularisation images
- Used Adafactor
- Effective steps: 4k (I say effective because using reg images it was actually 8k)
- Used OneTrainer
- Did a full fine-tune and then extracted the LoRA after

https://stable-diffusion-art.com/sd-forge-install/

It's also available for pro-users at https://venice.ai

@coyotte this is very sad! :(

Oh... There's plenty. ;) I got my first photorealistic one off of here too. This site is amazing.

@V7K2O4A Plenty but none like this with the diversity and realism. I barely need a lora for any kind of specialist content this model seems to include everything, every niche, every background setting its phenomenal. If you know of any others like this one please drop a comment, be much appreciated. I have tried 100's at this point! :D

I agree that it understands everything and doesn't require much lora utilization, but imo the best realism sdxl model is BigloveXL, though it beast biglove at prompt adherence 7/10 times for me

@coyotte, I can care less tbh.

@coyotte, what do you mean? I followed everything you said in your description. I know how to use checkpoints and LoRAs... I'm not sure what the issue is. Karras? What do YOU think would cause this issue?

@coyotte what do you think would cause this issue?

@coyotte wow @coyotte that would be awesome, i hope it will improve, your model is awesome its very realistic , i dont know if you looked at pornmaster his checkpoint but its also dope, but yeah each checkpoint has his own super powers, i really wish you could have a version where the tits and eyes, and diff scenes could be improved, but if you come up with a new version i dont mind sending you some donation, i hope you get better man, i also feel fucked a lot have my shit also, but balance is important and relaxation, i hope you will feel better thanks man

@coyotte you totally should man, your models bring so much happiness to so many people. By far the best models I've used, including flux. Hell, I'd donate at this point for more lmao.

Obviously dmd2. Download the normal version.

Maybe try a lower CFG ? (< 8.0)

@coyotte Thanks!

@coyotte i figured it out, just had some files installed in the wrong place. awesome checkpoint, thanks

at least it ignores the negative cue on the fixed seed

@coyotte Thanks, I didn't know

i use it in fooocus, generally you should uncheck all the boxes which have as standard, and if still not working the problem is in your installation

Im using Fooocus as well rn, theres nothing wrong with the endgame version!

Been using this checkpoint in Fooocus Colab and its doing wonder. Hit me up in DM if you need help

You can DM me for help, I use fooocus too

@coyotte Oh that's a shame i thought the only requirements was that the model was lightweight and that the creator approved it for use on the generator. Thanks anyway!

@coyotte I know. I'm not asking why it's hard, I'm asking how to make it soft.

You can use this model as a detailer as described here https://civitai.com/articles/10515/illustrious-realism-workflow . Start with "safe" model and use this as a refiner.

Yep perfectly.

That's entirely dependent on your video model, not this still image model.

@WZ_Gen is there any video model out that can do that?

@laguagirlie531 WAN is pretty good but if you want NSFW stuff I don't know