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This Negative Embedding (TI) can assist you in achieving a more realistic portrayal when prompting.
Pony: for Realistic Pony (like CyberRealistic Pony, but it should work with every Realistic Pony model)
SDXL: for SDXL versions
Realistic 1.5: use standard version (V1.0)
Semi-Realistic/Anime 1.5: use Anime version
How to use
Download the file and place it in your embeddings folder. If you're using A1111 Webui, the folder path would be stable-diffusion-webui/embeddings (refer to the documentation to find the correct location for embeddings for other programs).
Once the file is in the designated folder, utilize the embedding by entering its name into the "negative prompt" box instead of the usual prompt. The default names are CyberRealistic_Negative, or CyberRealistic_Negative_Anime, depending on the version you downloaded.
Description
Specifically designed for CyberRealistic Pony v9, but of course, it works with any version of Realistic Pony.
FAQ
Comments (77)
Should note the posted images have gone through massive upscaling
Massive? Not really? I'll post a quick 1024px gen with a 2x upscale using one of the OPs post. This took no effort.
Nobody is explaining what this textual inversion does exactly. What negatives is it accomplishing?
I always see these TI's with two different trigger words, whats up with that? I'm assuming this should only be used in the negative prompt, so why is there a separate trigger word with '-neg' on the end?
Commenting to add that I'm trying to figure that out too
The trigger word is 'CyberRealistic_Negative' I can't change this tigger word in Civitai
@Cyberdelia Oh ok! I'm guess thats the same reason I've seen it elsewhere, thanks for the info!
My downloaded file had the -neg ending and it only worked using it with -neg ending. After renaming it I can use it without -neg
usually, the file name is what will be the trigger word (in most cases)
You can rename it to whatever you like and then call that in the negative prompts, I find this works the same and is easier to remember the word.
@korhecz correct!
What does this TI even do?
Magic! ;)
Just combines some stuff together (simplified explanation) so it enhance realistic stuff. You don't have to use it but some users requested it.
@Cyberdelia How exactly do I use it?
@Cyberdelia can you describe more about what this embedding would want to do. Like if I used the CyberRealistic V3 model, how would using this help? What are use cases for it?
@Oneechan69 hey I did some comparison in another comment thread, you can see examples of this TI here https://freezerain.github.io/stable_diffusion_bad_pictures_ti_test/#auto-loc,true,true,false,negative_prompt,cfg_scale,none,none,1,1,1,1,1,1
@freezerain Thanks.
@freezerain Wow, thank you for that. Suddenly I want to use those negative TIs a lot less.
how is it installed? where?
\webui\embeddings
I Don’t Understand why it doesn’t appear in webui. I moved everything correctly to the right folder.
@cumauma maybe trying to use a sd15 embedding on a non SD15 checkpoint?
this is the goat of all negatives
Not sure about add_detail lora but this works the same. Just write <lora:more_details:1>
https://civitai.com/models/82098/add-more-details-detail-enhancer-tweaker-lora
LowRA here:
Sorry for late reaction. Add Details:
https://civitai.com/models/58390?modelVersionId=62833
Haven't found anything that increases image quality as much as this one. It's unreal.
safetensor?
+1, Fooocus doesn't seem to like using PickleTensors for embeddings unless I'm missing something... just throws an error.
CyberRealistic_Negative_v2
Cant find v2 embedding
Please share link
Any chance of getting this as a SafeTensor for Fooocus? Won't load a PT file unfortunately.
i really dont know why if .pt is such a major issue, that civitai doesn't have a system in place to either convert them to safetensors or completely take down these old pages for this supposed "unsafe format" that comfyui wont even load anymore lol
I can't use the pt file, there is an error shows like
"
Calculating sha256 for /Users/myusername/stable-diffusion-webui/embeddings/CyberRealistic Negative/Neg v1.0/CyberRealistic_Negative-neg.pt: 65f3ea567c04c22f92024c5b55cbeca580bc330c4290aeb647ebd86273b3ffb8
No Image data blocks found.
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"
How to fix it?
and you are using 'normal' stable diffusion?
"EMBEDDING" doesn't work for me. I put it in the "embeddings" folder. And in the negative text I entered “CyberRealistic_Negative”, but it doesn’t work. Maybe I need to install some kind of extension?
You have to put exact same name of the embedding. For me it's CyberRealistic_Negative-neg because the file is CyberRealistic_Negative-neg.pt
@wayenote4205557 It doesn't work because I'm using the pony model.
@Alexman3000 Ah, i don't use pony so can't tell
@Alexman3000 that explains it since this embedding is based for SD1.5. i know this is late comment xD
For me I have to reload the UI every time I restart Stable Difussion to get this Embedding to load
I need a pony or XL version. is there a link to it or no?
Failed to generate
Comfy workflow node: 6 uses an AIR: urn:air:sd1:embedding:civitai:77976@82745-neg which failed validation: UnknownAir
comfyui doesn't seem to want to pick up this negative, though it seems to have trouble with other specific negatives besides EasyNegativeV2, please reup this as a safetensors to relieve these headaches..
Thanks for the recent updates, works really good
Thanks! I'm glad it's working well. It took quite a bit of effort to get it just right.
Tried replacing my negative on recent prompts with this, and oh my, this is way beter. Thank you!
Tell me, does this negative work only with Cyber realistic, or can it be used with other pony models?
Every realistic Pony model. You could use it with Semi-Realistic or Anime Pony models. The results can be interesting.
@Cyberdelia thanks
Hi, in the Description is "CyberRealistic_Negative" the Triggerword. In the Exaple pic is "CyberRealistic_Negative_PONY". In the Triggerwords copie field "CyberRealistic_Negative_PONY-neg". What's right?
Is there any difference?
why is there a massive difference between CyberRealistic_Negative_PONY and CyberRealistic_Negative_PONY-neg ?sry am noob just trying to realize why you added the either or option without detailing the difference. the anime and sdxl versions barely change between the -neg or non -neg but the PONY embed is massive difference
I didn't notice any difference. Can you explain the difference?
In the case of PONY vs PONY-neg the -negative was extremely over saturated and "longer faces" just overall looked bad vs all the others incase screwing with
@nottodaynope in my case there was no difference
Civitai automatically adds the -neg suffix to the trigger word. So, the trigger word is the name of the file. For example, if the file is named "thisismyname.safesensor," then the trigger word is "thisismyname."
I may be wrong, but for me personally, the absence of negative feedback almost always gives the best result.
yea for some reason adding negatives makes the generations look plasticky for me
the first important thing you learn with AI is that negative prompts don't work the way people think. if you add a negative prompt the AI "thinks" it first. you only use it when something's already happening with certain seed. and most commonly used prompts have little to no effect at all.
The trick for negatives is to not apply them for the first 20-30% of the generation, because that can actually introduce the things you're trying to avoid. For webui, either use the "Ignore negative prompt during early sampling" option (you can add it to the UI as well), or just put the whole negative in brackets, like:
[(tag, tag, tag):0.25]
That will ignore negatives for the first 1/4. I don't know why this isn't talked about more. It works for embeddings, as well.
@EbenezerDanglewood This information is distilled gold
this is the best
Why is it not displayed for me In stable diffusion. I moved the file to the folder correctly.
\webui\embeddings
When using this, should we omit the usual Pony tags ("score_9, score_8_up, etc.")?
No but if you use a Positive Pony embedding then yes. You are talking about the positive tags right?
is the "CyberRealisticPony_V9.0a_FP16" of Hugging Face the version with SDXL VAE? If so, I am getting better results with that version
Yes both version are now also on Civitai
I use the pony for Illustrious as well, not sure of its effectiveness tho
lovely
fantastic
Your CyberRealistic checkpoint is one of the best. This addition is great. Thank you.
Thanks for the share Cyberdelia.
One question tho, does your negative embedding includes scores and which tags are included into your negative embedding?
Because without knowing it people can't adjust their negative prompt to their needs.
Are there some common tags such as score_xxx I can remove if I use this embedding? (Is there a list of what it defines somewhere?)
Any chance of Lazy-pilling you in terms of trigger phrasing? Quite apart from the "I ain't typing all that" factor, clipspace is already chewed up enough with score and quality prompts. Why "CyberRealistic_Negative_PONY_V2-neg" when "cyber_neg" (or whatever) would do the job?
pretty good, i guess i could use this for pleasurable arts, the model seems to be quite realistic and gentle compared to the other ones, which means it can help in creating really pleasant and soft arts for myself or fot work
pretty good
Details
Files
CyberRealistic_Negative_PONY_V2-neg.safetensors
Mirrors
CyberRealistic_Negative_PONY_V2-neg.safetensors
CyberRealistic_Negative_PONY_V2-neg.safetensors
CyberRealistic_Negative_PONY_V2-neg.safetensors
CyberRealistic_Negative_PONY_V2-neg.safetensors
CyberRealistic_Negative_PONY_V2-neg.safetensors
CyberRealistic_Negative_PONY_V2-neg.safetensors
CyberRealistic_Negative_PONY_V2-neg.safetensors
CyberRealistic_Negative_PONY_V2-neg.safetensors
CyberRealistic_Negative_PONY_V2-neg.safetensors
CyberRealistic_Negative_PONY_V2-neg.safetensors