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    ---V7 Notes ---

    • Prompt adjustments

    • Improvements to skin textures

    • More 2.5d/Realism flexibility

    • Bug fixes and general improvements.

    **NOTE - I know that the early access price went up a bit, that's to accommodate for the new system here. I'm still dialing this in and trying very hard to keep this as reasonable as I can. It's a balancing act between this and how much buzz I spend training some things as well as featuring things.

    ---V6 Notes ---

    • Better Pony Prompting Adherence

    • Improved Textures

    • Fantasy refinements

    • General Improvements

    ---V5 Notes ---

    • Improved Textures

    • Fantasy Fine Tuning

    • Better Animals

    • General Improvements

    *Note - This update does not dial back people a ton, so please continue to use specific prompts when you don't want people to appear.

    ---V4 Notes ---

    • Anthromorphic Update (variety and quality of people)

    • Downtuned animal generation

    • Lighting Improvements

    • Fantasy Elements Introduced

    *Note - This update had a lot of images trained on people. It's going to try to put people in things unless you are very specific in removing them.

    ---V3 Notes ---

    • General Improvements

    • Improved skin textures

    • Improved animal generation

    • bug fixes (training to fix bugs) - or however we should say that with models.

    --- V2 Notes ---

    • Improved textures

    • Improved lighting effects

    • Better control of light/dark scenes

    • Better fluid/water rendering

    --- V1.021 Notes---
    Technically this model is saved as 00Crow-and-Pony (double o) --> reasons...

    This is a new Pony model for me, which is trying to leverage what I learned while I've been migrating my Arrogant Bastard model from 1.5 to Pony. This model makes no attempt to bring in any of my 1.5 work, and instead relies on new generations from Arrogant Bastard to build its DataSet. I did create a number of Loras for this, and I strongly consider this version to be a very solid 1.0. I'm pretty happy with it. I'll continue to update my other models as it makes sense, and I am in no way abandoning them. The truth is that this just does different stuff than my other models, even though this is a realistic model also. Please let me know what you think or if you run into any problems. I pay attention and try to incorporate your ideas, and I do go back to fix bugs in future versions.

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    0l1v1aR0551Oct 18, 2024· 10 reactions
    CivitAI

    you can ez-ly set 1000 buzz for early access 4 this great model!

    CodebarkOct 19, 2024· 5 reactions
    CivitAI

    As always, I'm in love with your work

    M4rCTerOct 19, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    no clothes in my test pictures?!

    QuadPipe
    Author
    Oct 19, 2024

    It's probably because your positive and negative prompts both have a lot of references to body parts/anatomy. I'll see if I can improve on that control in the next version.

    NarzNov 3, 2024· 1 reaction

    you know you're messing with a Pony model, right?

    svoooooshOct 22, 2024· 6 reactions
    CivitAI

    Love this model. Together with ReActor extension it comes close to Flux (but with better control since it's based on Pony)

    SleezeBagDiffusionOct 22, 2024

    What settings have you tried for sampler/scheduler, etc. Testing out now and can't seem to get good results. Not remotely close to example pictures.

    svoooooshOct 22, 2024· 1 reaction

    @SleezeBagDiffusion Pretty much what was used for most examples. Guidance: 6, Steps: 40, Sampler: DPM++ 2M SDE Heun). Are you using the SDXL vae? I also added the common pony trigger words + some extra trigger words: score_9, score_8_up, score_7_up, BREAK, source_real, raw, photo, amateur (positive) and score_1, score_2, score_3, source_western, source_comic, source_furry, source_anime (negative)

    QuadPipe
    Author
    Oct 22, 2024

    I'll add in here, that Crow & Pony performs fairly well without a VAE set. The PonyStandardVAE_v1 shares a lot of refinements that C&P has built in, so you probably won't notice much of a difference if you use that.

    SleezeBagDiffusionOct 22, 2024· 5 reactions
    CivitAI

    any usage tips? Tried V2 and getting some really awful results. Clip Skip 1 or 2? Specific samplers or schedulers need to be used?

    QuadPipe
    Author
    Oct 22, 2024· 2 reactions

    It responds well to fewer negatives. Most of the time I just use a couple score negatives.

    I use DPM++ 2m huen and karras a lot.

    I tend to use between 30-50 steps. clip skip 1 or 2 should be fine.

    I’d recommend grabbing one of my images prompts and settings and tweaking. Double check any up sampler you’re using. I use foolhardy a lot with good results at 1.5 and 30 steps.

    yofoton174609Dec 7, 2024

    i thought we stopped using clip skip after SD1.5 ?

    soundofmindDec 13, 2024

    @yofoton174609 pretty much every Pony model requires Clip Skip 2

    yofoton174609Dec 15, 2024

    @soundofmind i tried setting it to -2 and got a nice image with pony. And tried without setting it, and got the same image anyway.

    scammOct 22, 2024· 7 reactions
    CivitAI

    This model does shadows very well. Try adding "in a dimly lit room, soft lighting, hard shadows" to your prompt.

    Inland389Oct 24, 2024· 2 reactions

    "storytelling through shadows" was something I stole from someone (I forget who) long ago... does cool things

    scammOct 25, 2024· 1 reaction

    @Inland389 Oh that's really creative, thanks for the tip!

    ChaosExperienceOct 22, 2024· 3 reactions
    CivitAI

    Is it suppose to can't be able to make anthro/furry without using a LoRA?? I've tryed dozens of prompts and failed on all.

    QuadPipe
    Author
    Oct 22, 2024· 1 reaction

    It's trained on human imagery, so I expect that a LoRA is going to be your best bet for something specialized.

    ChaosExperienceOct 22, 2024· 1 reaction

    @QuadPipe Got it. Thank you.

    falamoNov 2, 2024· 5 reactions
    CivitAI

    very good

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    Pony

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    Created
    10/18/2024
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    6/16/2026
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