CivArchive

    The Secret Sauce, trained on (5600 images)

    -This model's dimension is large, so combining it with other LoRA models may not be beneficial.

    Description

    FAQ

    Comments (62)

    printyparadiseart312Dec 23, 2024
    CivitAI

    Will this work with GGUF of hunyuan video, as I have only 8gb Vram. Will this be compatible with that GGUF version.

    pgc
    Author
    Dec 23, 2024

    Hi, it should be compatible with the GGUF version of the model, but 8Gb of vram seems very low, I would say that 16gb is the minimum, even 24 is low for Hunyuan unfortunately, But I recommend you to try LTXv, it's fast and not so demanding on vram

    @pgc Thanks for the reply, yeah 8gb is pretty low, LTXv is also good but I think hunyuan is better than that, thanks for this suggestion, will see try to upgrade the hardware.

    lost_moonDec 23, 2024
    CivitAI

    Please add some description.

    Does the hunyuan lora understand sex positions?

    pgc
    Author
    Dec 23, 2024

    Hi, no, I didn’t train anything sexual. It’s essentially a LoRA focused on refining the "look" style, face, and upper body. You can check the Flux version images for a better understanding of what it does. The dataset used for the Hunyuan LoRA is roughly the same but much smaller approximately 1,500 images compared to around 5,600 for the Flux version. I’m currently testing the addition of videos and motions, but that will be a separate model.

    lost_moonDec 23, 2024· 1 reaction

    @pgc oh, I get it. I didn't know you can train a video lora on images. thanks for clarifying.

    bobbyhender65747Dec 23, 2024

    @pgc can you explain how this is hunyuan specific? Is it the dimensions of the training images?

    antey3195Dec 23, 2024· 7 reactions
    CivitAI

    why is the video so short? Are you running out of memory, or do you just not want to wait too long? Are you using HunyuanVideo Enhance-A-Video to further improve quality? Is SageAttention enabled?

    A person on reddit wrote that he makes 20-second videos on RTX 3090 24Gb

    here are his settings

    249 frames interpolated x2 = 498frames

    = ~20 seconds video

    size: 720H ​​x 400W

    steps: 7

    inference time: 53 seconds (vid2vid 0.5 denoise)


    I have 3090, I have been experimenting with Hunyan for the second week, my goal is to learn how to make infinitely long consistent videos using hunhyuan_rf_inversion or vid to vid

    pgc
    Author
    Dec 23, 2024· 5 reactions

    The goal is to showcase the overall look, so I’m fine with 2–3-second videos as long as they have decent quality and motion. I have a 4090, and generating 249 frames at this resolution is not feasible, at least with the FP8 version of the model. The official FP8-scaled version doesn’t support LoRA yet.* Not using FastHunyan here*

    Also, 20 seconds for 249 frames equals 12 FPS, which is kinda slow for the motion. I prefer short videos that look real-time rather than long, slow ones.

    I use Enhance-A-Video and Sage Attention, yes. But since the model isn’t restricted by size or length, there are no "best settings" to recommend, sky "vram" is the limit.

    As for long video generation, I’m not interested in that at the moment. The current methods aren’t very good. Using the last frames of the first video to generate the second and so on, creates a kind of self-convolution, and the results degrade progressively over time.

    2988Dec 23, 2024
    CivitAI

    Did you train this on AI images?

    pgc
    Author
    Dec 23, 2024· 2 reactions

    1/5 is AI images generated with the Flux version using prompts of the original dataset,

    4/5 is the original dataset (but smaller), only composed of real photoshoot with DSLR on 70-200mm lenses

    2988Dec 23, 2024

    OK thanks for the reply, yeah that first image with the grass behind the woman reminded me of faces I've seen in flux. Interesting how that crosses over to this.

    hello626Dec 24, 2024· 4 reactions
    CivitAI

    What are the activation words

    Agent_SmthJan 21, 2025

    "fat cows"

    licedeusDec 24, 2024· 3 reactions
    CivitAI

    Could you share workflow for some samle videos please?

    pgc
    Author
    Dec 24, 2024· 6 reactions

    Hi, I share all of my workflows, you can find them on my profile page, but you can have the same results with a default Hunyuan workflow. The videos I posted are upscaled and interpolated to 60 fps with topaz video 3.3.3

    licedeusDec 25, 2024

    @pgc got it, thank you.

    96857Jan 2, 2025
    CivitAI

    What strengths (model + clip) do you use?

    henox31882568Jan 3, 2025· 15 reactions
    CivitAI

    I mean what's the posting of posting all that but not your prompt??

    pgc
    Author
    Jan 4, 2025· 2 reactions

    The point of posting all that? I think you don't see the amount of training, and rendering time to create these videos, I made about 200 at high resolution each of them renders in about 320seconds. More than 15 hours of extra computing just to give you guys some examples...

    StanleyPainJan 4, 2025· 4 reactions

    I never understood why people don't post their prompts. That's the ultimate helpfullness there.

    pgc
    Author
    Jan 4, 2025· 1 reaction

    I posted 10000 of these prompts two monh ago on the first iteration of the model, flux 1.0. Is it enough or you want more?

    StanleyPainJan 4, 2025

    @pgc Sorry dude, I'm not seeing the prompts. All of it shows blank. I am visually impaired so that could be it too ;)

    pgc
    Author
    Jan 4, 2025· 4 reactions

    @StanleyPain in the download as training dataset there is a .txt file that contains 10k prompts, this is all the dataset captions merged

    StanleyPainJan 5, 2025

    @pgc Thanks I will check it out :)

    masterzhiwei894Jan 19, 2025· 3 reactions

    @StanleyPain did you find the training dataset? where is that 😢

    finalityJan 6, 2025· 3 reactions
    CivitAI

    Boobs seem to be less round/smooth with this LoRA

    bbeggs234Jan 15, 2025
    CivitAI

    Hey pgc, what native resolution you used to generate these videos? Do you use any nodes for face restore inside comyui? I'm trying to use topaz upscale on my generations, but my results not even close to yours.

    pgc
    Author
    Jan 16, 2025· 2 reactions

    Hi, I rendered most of my last posts at 800x1184 without teacache, no additional post processing, then upscaled using topaz video 3.3.3, x2 with frame gen to 60fps

    crazyrooster360Jan 21, 2025
    CivitAI

    Was this updated today? I saw it disappear and then reappear.

    pgc
    Author
    Jan 21, 2025· 4 reactions

    I misclicked and deleted the whole page instead of an updated unpublished version, I asked the moderation to revive it, fortunately it was still possible

    direct22202Jan 21, 2025

    @pgc Good deal. So what's new?

    azeliJan 21, 2025· 15 reactions
    CivitAI

    description would help, what does it even do?

    makiaeveliJan 21, 2025· 1 reaction

    from an OP comment: Hi, no, I didn’t train anything sexual. It’s essentially a LoRA focused on refining the "look" style, face, and upper body. You can check the Flux version images for a better understanding of what it does. The dataset used for the Hunyuan LoRA is roughly the same but much smaller approximately 1,500 images compared to around 5,600 for the Flux version. I’m currently testing the addition of videos and motions, but that will be a separate model.

    He's not lying, look at the examples, mostly similar face structure. I will say it helps with backgrounds and stuff, but it seems it defaults to the same woman

    Also, if you check the other examples in his FLUX version, with prompts, he doesn't seem to be using any specific triggers. The model's JSON doesn't say it has triggers. It may literally just be a bunch of photos with descriptions baked into a LoRa, no real overarching words. Although there should be a single unique trigger, there doesn't have to be.

    pgc
    Author
    Jan 21, 2025· 1 reaction

    @makiaevelio543 This is correct, the thing is, when you train a vast amount of images with various characters/poses/environments/night or day/framing etc. with long LLaVA or Florence2 captions, it's hard to clearly describe what it does and what the model retain the most from training, this is why I called it secret sauce it's not a gatekeeper thing

    Almost every face was different so I don't know what could be the cause for faces that defaults to the same woman

    I resumed the training from 15K steps (B3) to 30K steps (C2), but I didn't have the time to test it and do comparisons yet

    makiaeveliJan 23, 2025

    @pgc It's a valid strategy, more or less what the models themselves use. It's just a "style lora". I think maybe some people are new to all this and see the manageable set of straightforward pose loras and assume this must be like it.

    I think the face is just the face that is the average of thousands of faces. At least that's how I've attempted to rationalize it lol

    It is a lot more work, but I think what the BigASP creator did to mitigate this problem was to build an entire workflow around prompting images. He created his own model to "properly" rate all of his images, and using that model's output, would randomly assign only a subset of the proposed tags and descriptions to the image.

    This worked two fold: you can properly separate the instagram models from the amateur photos (by properly rating the images, which I think reduces the 'face'), and you can allow simple prompts to hit many more complicated ones (by associating them when they're randomly removed from similar images). A lot of work, and that "rating model" is a big question mark.

    Melty1989Jan 22, 2025
    CivitAI

    The training data seems to be missing, i don't see it on the Flux versions either
    civitai.com/api/download/models/995043?type=Training Data

    pgc
    Author
    Jan 22, 2025· 1 reaction

    I removed the v1 few days ago, this was not the full training "images" data, it was the captions.

    This is the combined captions for the B3 version

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cb-1H_kWnjFtSMcVPvTAPw7PrZUVN7oe/view?usp=sharing

    KGNJan 25, 2025
    CivitAI

    Is this trained on AI images or real images?

    pgc
    Author
    Jan 28, 2025

    For the most part yes, but there is a small part of flux synthethic data augmentation

    GitarooManJan 28, 2025· 13 reactions
    CivitAI

    Why did you upscale your stuff with Topaz instead of posting the raw thing of what your lora does? It misrepresents what the thing does and makes everyone feel bad about their own creations. This is the worst activity on Civit and there is no accountability, I hate it. This isn't the model page for Topaz upscaler

    pgc
    Author
    Jan 28, 2025· 4 reactions

    Hi, it just looks sharper with its almost imperceptible, i'm not stopping you to use your own upscale solution, I do things for me first then I share if it can be useful for others, you hate it or not i don't give a single F to be honnest

    OFIAJan 30, 2025

    @pgc ey bro, if I am interested in knowing how to raise the quality, it is nothing else with Thopas video, or there is another program

    pgc
    Author
    Jan 30, 2025

    @OFIA Hi, I didn't use anything else than topaz and comfyUI, you can use the upscale node from comfyUI with the upscale model of your choice, you can also use frame interpolation node to have a more fluid video, from 24 to 48 fps. On topaz the frame interpolation is not limited by a multiplier value, you can set the desired output fps instead, I use 60fps.

    I ran a batch to generate all these videos over the night, I prefered using an external upscaler to only upscale the videos that I wanted to keep, this way I didn't spent extra power on videos that was not good enough.

    NOOBDAFeb 2, 2025

    @pgc bro, please can you share your work-flow. I want to use. New here to video.

    aperire0402947Jan 30, 2025
    CivitAI

    Hi, I noticed that this Lora was trained on significant size of data. Which hardware did you use and what was the VRAM required?

    pgc
    Author
    Jan 30, 2025

    It was trained with diffusion-pipe, I have a 4090 but I didn't remember the peak VRAM usage during the training, I think 16go is enough but i'm not sure. To train videos, 512x512px 33frames rank 32 barely fits on a 24go GPU, so it's not possible if you don't have a 3090/4090 or less (to train videos)

    OFIAJan 30, 2025
    CivitAI

    How is the LORA, with diffusion pipe or other? formed, what are the necessary PC capacities?

    pgc
    Author
    Jan 30, 2025

    It was trained with diffusion-pipe yes, I have a 4090 but I didn't remember the peak VRAM usage during the training, I think 16go is enough but i'm not sure. To train videos, 512x512px 33frames rank 32 barely fits on a 24go GPU, so it's not possible if you don't have a 3090/4090 or less

    RamblingJoeFeb 1, 2025
    CivitAI

    Is there a workflow you recommend for accuracy with Hunyuan V2V please?
    And what are the best settings to use for motion accuracy vs video quality? thank you!

    fox23vang226Feb 3, 2025· 5 reactions
    CivitAI

    From the examples it seems like the training data was completely AI/synthetic data. All the faces look like your typical AI face.

    pgc
    Author
    Feb 4, 2025· 3 reactions

    If you say so

    VelouraMar 2, 2025

    even if it was, these seem like top of the line flux generated images, not too airbrushed, and balanced well with detail, they give more realism to my generations

    towardsingularityFeb 14, 2025
    CivitAI

    is there B2?

    ForeverNecessary737716Feb 24, 2025
    CivitAI

    mostly women or difference demographics of people?

    scroll down one click

    DPCharlieMar 21, 2025· 4 reactions
    CivitAI

    what does this do if added it seems to do nothing

    SteaknifeApr 23, 2025

    It's a secret

    hypnagogicalJun 2, 2025

    it adds sauce (shhhhh)

    evilstormhot109Jul 7, 2025· 1 reaction

    I also have this question, since there is no freacking description or any words of wtf it does?!

    ebony3d2894Sep 23, 2025

    yes. nothing wrong with giving a description so people will know

    CyberWorld_AI_PicsMar 21, 2025
    CivitAI

    Hi, what´s strenght for images recommended ? Thank you

    LORA
    Hunyuan Video
    by pgc

    Details

    Downloads
    13,646
    Platform
    CivitAI
    Platform Status
    Available
    Created
    12/22/2024
    Updated
    5/13/2026
    Deleted
    -

    Available On (2 platforms)

    Same model published on other platforms. May have additional downloads or version variants.