Its one helluva day to get slain.
Appearing stage left is Moxxie from Vivziepop's hit cartoon Helluva Boss! (Please go give Vivzie some love, the artist and Helluva Boss crew really have outdone themselves with this awesome, [still ongoing] instant classic cartoon animation.)
There will be multiple versions of this LoRA. One of them is trained on NoobAI.
The PonyXL version may get another version in the future.
Usage on Noob:
Also use "furry" when using furry-style artists.
Feel free to add quality tags. "masterpiece", "best quality" and "good quality" give different style compositions and add some spice to the image. Even "normal quality" and "worst quality" in the positive prompt can help (but you can put them in the negative prompt).
Always have something in the negative prompt when generating with noob (especially with this LoRA).
Noob tends to generate images without color, so: if you want to ensure that there is some color in the image: specify at least one color in the prompt. I recommend "red skin", which would enforce Moxxie's skin to be red.
Use (contrast:0.7) on the neg to remove ultra high contrast in colored gens.
Lower the model strength when less tags are present. I recommend starting off with 0.5-0.6
if you have just a few prompts.
The model works fine for 80% of the time with a strength of 0.7.
As you increase the amount of tags: you will need to increase the model strength so that it can continue to generate Moxxie as a character.
Usage on PonyXL:
The first version of this LoRA is very dependent on the LoRA strength. It can generate with Moxxie features at a strength of 0.1, but it is more an influence. With a strength of 0.3 the character looks like Moxxie in the original PonyV6 model and is very flexible and obedient to prompting. Other models might need a LoRA strength of 0.5 to gen Moxxie with all his features while still being flexible enough to change Moxxie, his wardrobe, his body type, his gender, his accessories, etc. The LoRA becomes more rigid at a strength of 0.7. Making Moxxie in other genders tends to be difficult in various PonyV6 checkpoints with a strength of 0.7. Changing his clothes and other features (like hair color/size, skin color, etc) is possible in strengths from 0.1 to 1 (in the various models I tested). The LoRA is still flexible with a strength of 1, but some models may require a lower strength because the LoRA tries to impose a cartoon style (even in realistic models). Lower the strength if style becomes an issue.
The PonyXL LoRA may automatically generate characters with nsfw parts. If this happens: one can get rid of them by mentioning them in the negative prompt.
"nose, snout, nostrils" in the neg works in some models to remove these face features. The original pony model tends to not generate them unless the strength has been lowered quite a bit.
All Models:
Use "moxxie" as the keyword.
You don't need to use all the keywords to generate Moxxie. But they are words that the LoRA responds to.
The models sometimes breaks off the tail from Moxxie, so I recommend that you put "tail" in the positive prompt when genning him. Unless you don't want a tail: then put it in the negative prompt.
These models were trained with images that have both SFW and NSFW content so that the model can understand what Moxxie looks like underneath his clothes and so that it does not try to gen the clothes on every gen.
If you want to gen Moxxie in his traditional suit put "suit" in the prompt.
A whole body image? Type "hooves" in the prompt and then add the pose ("standing", "sitting", "wariza", "cocked hip", etc)
"rear view" of also works.
Sometimes his skin turns another color (usually blue or black): specify "red skin" if you wish for Moxxie to have red-colored skin.
"red hooves" also works to turn his hooves red (if you like that).
If the images come out black and white: adding some color to the prompt tends to fix it (putting "red skin" in the positive prompt also tends to fix this issue).
Description
Trained on noob-Epsilon-1
FAQ
Comments (4)
Is this a LoRA for use in SDXL type models? NoobAI appears to be an XL model, so I assume it is, but it's marked as "Other".
You know... I haven't tested using the Noob LoRA to generate using other SDXL models, but I can try. Give me a sec and we'll know for sure. : 3
In essence:
This model is SDXL and was trained on NoobAI.
NoobAI is also SDXL (trained on a specific data).
But most SDXL (furry/anime) LoRAs out there are PonyXL (which is also SDXL, but trained on different data).
NoobAI is a relatively new technology which is why it still does not have its own category yet (which is why it is marked as "other").
Using the Noob LoRA on PonyDiffusionXLV6 (the original Pony model): Apparently the LoRA works and kinda knows what Moxxie looks like, but it does not look exactly like him. It keeps trying to make him cuter, rounder, fluffier and adds a nose/lip thing. The eyes also lose their yellow and the pupils become huge. It looks like Moxxie, but it is not Moxxie. The gens are also inconsistent.
This is because Noob has a very different training than Pony. Both models are based on the SDXL technology, but they come from very different training backgrounds.
Not to worry, though. I am working on creating a Pony-based LoRA for Moxxie that would allow you to use PonyXL-models.
Does this answer your questions?
@Pokefan Yes, that is a very good explanation, thank you



