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6tZ This doesn't really work... you need some kind of stability to rely on.

@6tZ :))He meant, you should be the main donator, like other model makers do. Dont be greedy.

Of course, you have many models, but you should always bid the latest pony, illustrious and flux.

@6tZ I meant that Civits system doesn't really work... if you start on a project to create a gallery and the available checkpoints for online generation just switch around all the time, this makes any focused investment difficult... I used to throw thousands of buzz at an idea (though my current state doesn't allow that anyhow), and I was able to rely on a stable result for the process. Sure - if you just create single images, anything goes... but this would not have kept me invested for such a long time. (No critique for your checkpoint ;) )

@6tZ you say they dont have enough compute to have all models on the generator but from my understanding this is not how this works and not the reason for the bidding system. generating costs compute power, not to have a model available for generation. they probably pay rent for the machine usage which typically is rent a gpu and disk space, and when used the model is loaded from the disk space into the vram and then generates. so to have all models available the issue is the disk space, not the compute, because you not only pay more for better gpu but also for how much disk space you have available to store your resources. and imo with release of sdxl and pony and illustrious the models got 3 times the size and the amount of models grew too so you have an unpredictable growing size of disk space you have to rent, so the the problem probably is the growing costs of storing em on the gpu rigs or the provider just cant offer enough space on those rigs for all the models. with the bidding system they reduced the required space to a predictable small size while spending buzz also pays for the disk space rent by itself and offers an incentive for model creators to spend huge sums of buzz so they dont get to effectivly use all the compute for free forever using all the earned buzz from user interaction, the downside here is only for the user to not have all resources available for generation. so its not about compute but about costs/limits of disk space and incentives to spend buzz, and yes this systems sucks bad but as with tos rules here they can do whatever they want because we the users accept this bs instead of at the very least discuss and challenge it.

im sure there would be other possible solutions that would make all models available and still cover the costs/limits and buzz incentives, like for example measure trending models by usage instead of pure buzz spent on bidding and keep those permanently on rented space so they are instantly available to the gpu while all other models are loaded to the rigs space on demand and get deleted after some time when they are not used, would make the costs a predictable static sum for the max space they want to rent with the downside for the user to wait before generation to transfer the not so often used model from civitai storage servers to gpu rig storage, while they could still have the bidding system to raise the interest in a model for the usage statistics to have it permanently available rather than on demand, that way in theory the costs and income and buzz spending incentives should still all be covered while it would make all models and resources available rather than only a few. which in turn could even raise the buzz spending incentives because you dont only get to bid on a few models that are likely to actually make it. and/or you could have shared buzz pay for use on demand to temporarely load a model into gpu rig storage till its not used for some time again or for a certain time frame you pay for.

even better solution would be to have all resources available for the gpus to directly load em by either have a data center and compute center combination in one entity or to have the loading into the gpu directly via web from a server in another location instead of locally storing resources at the compute centers (matter of costs for creating such combined compute-storage centers vs costs of ongoing online data transfer), both things that are not in civitai hands but the market to create such solutions for them to rent.

now somebody go pitch that to them ^^

people pay for gens here?

forgeui->load the check point and add stuff comfyui can become a clusterfuck of noodles.