In general, increasing contrast in generation is fairly easy, reducing it.. not so much.

@Mescalamba Yeah well, i am not a tech specialist (in anything tbh lol) about the fine details of checkpoints and their adjustments, i am but a humble user, who just gives feedback based on my personal preference on how i'd WISH some checkpoints would look with the colors/tints/contrast.

I know it's not easy, and never can same time satisfy everyone, since all have their own preferences, AND on top of that, people often see colors a bit differently to my knowledge, some people can see more distinct colors/hues, a bit like some some have more refined tasting ability.

So while "general opinion" of some checkpoint would be positive, there are always a few (often loud hih) who see it totally differently. So cannot ever get 100% satisfaction rate. Checkpoint/Lora creators here need a thick skin probably.

Most people who are satisfied silently enjoy using their creations, but the unhappy people are often the loud (and can be rude), still - even negative feedback is needed, to improve things. Here is good that here are people who can give constructive feedback.

Often can see also tho angry people who get bad results with checkpoints/Loras just due to clear "skill issues" though.

And i think actual "general contrast" in CyberrealisticXL checkpoints been amazing, some finetuning on the "tints" would wish from 99% of checkpoints, not CyberrealisticXL thing - but in general. Many are very good, close to perfect, but can always try go even further, right? ^^ And push to 10/10 points.

I really like CyberrealisticXL, catalyst 1.2 is fun, can get a bit surprising results compared to 5.8. Catalyst 1.2 is amazing, it does what you prompt, but can create many different kind of results with the same prompt, so it has variety same time it also does what you want. So it's fun and addictive to use.. gets wanted results, but also artistic and creative surprises. <3

@Eclipsia You like cold blue, thats your fun. But its not realistic at all. Thatswhy nobody tried color calibration on a base level.

If realistic look, more like this pic: flat and natural.

https://civitai.com/images/82565222

@breckonuzziah As said, each have their preferences. :) You have yours, and we all see colors a bit differently and prefer certain tints, even aesthetics.

To me the difference is like between Euler A and DPM++ 2M SDE with Karras, there is a clear difference to my eyes, same with the yellow/orange tints vs less of that, so it makes other colors to my eyes look more pure, crisp and skin textures look better, might have bias due to being a nordic person, so we have much more pale skins with actual slight blue tint painting our actual real life world during long winters, so it in my eyes makes things look more real.

The more things go yellow tint overly warm, the more to my eyes it looks like Florida (photos taken under that sun making everything yellow/orange tint) and overly tanned people. I like making all types, but if i get some solarium toasted orange skins and images that looks like 1970's retro images, i don't personally like that. I accept that some do. So not gonna try to change your mind. :) And no, you can't change my mind on this also, it's same as people enjoy different foods, your taste applies only to you.

My appreciation towards the creator of this checkpoint working for making and experimenting on different aesthetics and color schemes is why i am here. There is creativity and artistic approach and care in it. Love it!

I mean.. there already is a dozen "JuggernautXL's.", from different creators, that all look exactly the same, why would just 1to1 copy of another one? Doing something original, surprising, pushing things further.. There every now and then pops up a checkpoint like that, i can think of maybe 5 that been total game changers. And @Cyberdelia has made one of them. Or two to be honest. So can't wait for 6.0, no matter what direction it goes, i like the general style they got, that i cannot explain with my lack of technical terms.

@Eclipsia I saw a lot scandi movies, but even in cold winter they didnt look bluish:))) My Eyes:))

@Eclipsia I guess it wasnt obvious, but I was just agreeing with you.

I do prefer lower contrast checkpoints exactly for reason I mentioned. I can tune contrast up while creating image, but if checkpoint already has high contrast, I have no way to turn it down. Its baked in.

Simply, you are right. Lower contrast checkpoints FTW.

I have the same problem. Pictures in 1.3 look like HDR with high contrast