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📩 Vote which version do you prefer on the generator
✨v2.3 ULTRA is a distinct variant of the standard v2.3.
While it technically improves overall output, my intention is to treat this version as experimental, exploring potential directions for future updates.
This release brings more natural and balanced lighting (also darkness), enhanced skin detail and an increased realism.
If you're using this model for Furry or Fur-based prompts, make sure to use the "Furry" trigger, or pair it with my Fur Enhancer LoRA for best results.

v2.3: (Latest) ✨
v2.2:
I have written an article that explains and provides some useful resources to help you achieve great generation results. You can check it out for detailed insights and recommendations.
🔁 Samplers
DPM++ 2M SDE Karras
DPM++ 2S a Karras
DPM++ SDE Karras
DPM++ 2M SDE Exponential
DPM2 a
DPM++ 2S a
DPM++ 3M *
Euler A
⚙️ Generation Settings
Steps: 30 or more
CFG Scale: 6–7
Clip Skip: 2
Resolution: Greater than 1024px
🗒️ Notes
Use Danbooru tags
Keep individual prompt weights ≤ 1.5
Use "female/male" instead of "woman/man" for better tagging compatibility
🖋️ Prompt Style
Positive Prompt Tags:
score_9,score_8_up,score_7_up,BREAKNegative Prompt Tags:
score_4,score_5,score_6
⚠️ Avoid DPM++ 2M Karras (Not recommended for generation)
✅ Recommended Samplers
Euler A
DPM2 A (Best for detail)

Read the following article for tips and my training preset
⚡️ Buzz for the Best Images ⚡️
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FAQ
Comments (132)
"I like big knocks and I cannot lie..."
Maybe, the CLIP Skip of v23 Ultra version should be 2.
It's a pony based model so those should always be 2.
ill try give ULTRA a shot soon
非常好用
so good
Which version will you recommend for Training LoRAs? so we can avoid Training LoRAs for Each New Versions every time
Beautiful.
I still prefer 2.2, I'm trying to refrain from using another lora for furry gens. But when i tried using the other versions, it like the furry is trained out, like it pushes more for a human look/skin when I'm trying to make furry/non furry img.
Yeah thats why is told on the description to use the tag "furry" and/or use my fur lora
How do you get good images result. All of the images I tried creating are all absolutely terrible?
GGG
Great generator!
great
This is not just another PONY checkpoint; it's a checkpoint in AI Generation history! Wow! Amazing, thank you for making this!
May I ask if the eyes of this model are not very good, and it needs to be combined with eye lora to achieve better effect? I am using the same workflow, and when I change the large model, the eyes of other models are normal, but the eyes of this model do not look right, and sometimes they are even closed. It is very likely that there is something wrong with my usage method. I hope to get some guidance. Thank you!
IMHO V22 is always better...or the creators are borning now about the reality with ai :D
Make a sideversion for amateur realism. You have a ton loras for that. Skip furry whining and erase that semireal look, which is from v1 and didnt change a bit.
Great! Really makes awesome figures
bad, does not know artist names or styles, really bad at artistic images
Ultra is an inferior version of standart Realism, lol
Feedback on Model Versions:
I tested the 2.3 Ultra version and noticed it struggles significantly with male character generation—especially compared to v2.2, which performs better but still frequently defaults to female outputs even when prompted for males. This issue is particularly pronounced in NSFW content, where female figures dominate unexpectedly.
Question:
Is there a specific version optimized for male/male homosexual content generation? I’d love recommendations for builds that handle such prompts more reliably.
i would use a lora or very tight negative prompts like (woman:1.5)
Love using this one
Anyone know how to standardize settings across different software frontends/setups so images come out the exact same whilst using the exact same prompt data, config, etc?
Oestensibily, I import my own prompt data, etc, from my own images into different frontends; like SwarmUI, Forge, etc, but the images just aren't generating the same.....
Heard a bunch of explanations for this, but never a means/guide to actually produce the exact same results.
flux cant do nsfw,hidream too slow ,
Why was V2.3 removed from generations on Civitai?
I think the auction for it did not go through
it WILL NOT do portraits, it always is like from the knees up.
You are doing something wrong then, just use "portrait"
Not to sound totes dramatic or anything lol (I'm in a somewhat sentimental, sad mood though), but I just wanted to say how much I've come to really like this community (Pony Realism page in particular, because of course it's my fav model by far ^^).
It's looking like somewhere is getting the ole' ban hammer treatment real soon though ;( Sure can maybe use workarounds, I guess we'll see.....thought I'd just say something before that happens just incase ;(
Anyway, stay safe ZyloO & the rest of the AI community ;) <3 Best of wishes from this crazy broad ;)
PS - politicians really are a bunch of absolute useless cucks lol.
It's honestly a shame, really glad you enjoyed the models and appreciate the support and feedback since the beginning.
My stuff is still available on other sites if you ever need to grab anything.
Take care :)
I never rly used it much, but feel Tensor.art is not really the same ;( & I can see it looks like you're not as active there either. There doesn't appear to be any sense of community over there, & I just don't like the whole.....'design' either.... I dunno, the whole place just seems a mess, & it's just not as fun randomly browsing or finding things over there. Hard to put my finger on.
I found a ton of really cool stuff just doom scrolling civitai, & I've enjoyed my probably 100s of hours here :D
I really hope others are able to find re-directs for stuff... this exclusive hosting on some sites is really sad if there's just no alternate options ;(
I rly mean what I was saying about liking this community btw <3 After coming from a place like Steam (That I just gave up on even trying with, because it was just an endless mob of rude cretins lol), it feels like entering the Twilight Zone coming here aftewards...lmao. The contrast between the average user on Steam, & here is just insane! Everyone is just rude as hell & absolutely obnoxious for no reason most places online, so it was really refreshing being a part of the community on civitai, which I'm really going to miss :/
For a community full of 'alternate' content..lol, you'd think it'd probably be quite a seedy underbelly of users, but everyone is really civilized & nice, & I don't think I've ever really come across any real bad actors. It's a cliche...but I never felt more at home than on here :)
I think this is probably due to the barrier for entry into AI. I think it just attracts a more educated, open minded kind of individual, & is probably too complicated (relatively speaking) for your average xbox kid or facebook drone that needs everything to be super easy lol, so a lot of the worst elements of society ended up getting filtered out due to frustration haha.
Hasta la vista, baby <3 xxx
Ang, signing out ^^
I am totally lost trying to figure out what ControlNets you can use with this model (newbie). Suggestions?
This controlnets works well with this model - comfyui_controlnet_aux
- https://github.com/Fannovel16/comfyui_controlnet_aux
What is the difference between ponyRealism_V22 and ponyRealism_V22MainVAE, and why can I not find the latter for download anywhere, yet I see people using it?
Nothing, its just a rename
after a dozen different models back and forth, i have to say thats the best of all v2.2. ill get near perfect hand, feet, eyes and face. but the best is it does what i want and not something random. and hey i generate pics on my shitty 5yrs old ryzen 4700u iGPU🤣absolutely unsupported cant work, should crash, but i did a 11hrs batch rush yesterday, its alive...
thanks for all your efforts!
tomorrow i go to do a comparision run with v2.3 then i decide which will win but for now its v2.2
when i use this model 2.2 or 2.3, it always generates pictures with missing toes and additional fingers. How did you make the # of toes and fingers correct?
I love using this model!
This model used to be good. What happened?
skill issue
2.1 is back ! I love it !
Good model!
What is the best upscaler for this?
I remember, author say the best is "4x_NMKD" upscaler, or something like that (with NMKD letters in title).
I personally really like 4x_NMKD-Siax_200k (use that one the most).
8x_NMKD-Superscale_150000_G
4x_NMKD-Superscale-SP_178000_G
https://openmodeldb.info/models/4x-NMKD-Superscale & https://openmodeldb.info/models/1x-ITF-SkinDiffDetail-Lite-v1 (ZyloO has said he used these in the past)
4x_foolhardy_Remacri (Good for just about anything really)
4x-ClearReality (Good general purpose)
4x_NMKD-UltraYandere_300k (Anime based)
Yep, pretty much what @ShadowCell said, also I’ve been using UltraSharpV2 a lot lately
@ZyloO I ran a test with about 20 of them one day, I don't think I personally favoured UltraSharpV1 so much though. V2 looks rly interesting though. Thx for link.
I tend to like Oil Paintings, Classical Art, & gritty 'realistic' film grain styles though, which a lot of upscalers sometimes ruin with oversharpening.
Highly recommended!
v2.3 is actually awesome!!!
Part of the perception/expectation problem people have with a lot of checkpoints is the version numbering.
Something like RealDream goes from v16 to v17; but there's usually barely any difference.... Hell, I've downloaded something like v12 through to 16, & there's still barely that much of a difference (& that's not even necessarily a criticism either).
Meanwhile, Pony Realism goes from v2.2 to v2.3, & a lot of people are probably thinking "Oh, a minor new update".....lol.
v2.3 is in actual fact quite a huge upgrade/change!
I didn't like v2.3 as much as v2.1/2 at first, but it is great! It's just a big enough of a departure that you can't just copy & paste all your old prompting over from v2.1 & expect great results. Just stick in there & learn to accept it's a different beast; & if you play to it's strengths & changes you will get great results.
TL;DR - Don't throw in the towel too quick without giving it a fair chance; because it is capable of achieving superior results if you learn to master it & tame the beast ;)
Yeah, that’s probably on me with the version naming. I keep it at 2.x since I don’t really see those as "MAJOR" changes like full merges or big shifts to the model, but I still try to give each one its own vibe.
Im glad you’re liking this version :)
I wouldn't say you're to blame, it's just a general trend of PR over substance, & a general race to the bottom clickbait mentality that plagues the internet now. Giving accurate, honest update notes is commendable ^^
Tbh, it reminded me of Firefox vs Internet Explorer haha; when Firefox would go from FF7 to FF8 or something (right around the same time one of their competition came out with a new version), then you'd read the patch notes "We changed the front page font"....lol (ok, mb it wasn't quite that bad).
This is also the reason we have Xbox 360, etc; the Micro$oft marketing team didn't want to name it Xbox 2, because it sounded inferior to Playstation 3.
PS - Hope you never blew all that buzz I donated on drugs or Fortnite VBucks.... jks lol.
You can put it towards training Pony Realism 'Revolution' V4
(Skipping V3 entirely; with only some very minor changes of course) ^-
Also, out of curiosity; what are your thoughts on Chroma HD? (It being FLUX based, officially licensed, & NSFW)
I haven't used it much yet, but it seems a little disappointing so far, but feel it may have greater potential later.
@ShadowCell I haven’t used it much yet, I can tell it’s got potential, but it doesn’t really catch my interest at the moment. I’ll try it again once it’s more developed.
Totally agree. This is one of the best, if not the best SDXL / PONY I've used. Only some Illustrious models are superior for anime or comics character design.
2.3 is really good. Thank you.
Can someone help how to use this on Draw things iOS app? I’m going to use it to generate NSFW with Juggernaut XL v9. Any help to improve my setup also would be great! Thank you so much in advance < 3
I'm using comfyui. does anyone know why the faces look so mushed or morphed? the bodies look great, but all my faces look deformed with ponyrealism. cyberrealistic looks fine, but it's terrible for sex scenes. ponyrealism is better, but has face issues for me.
Adetailer is recommended, there is something similar for comfy
@ZyloO do know what the comfy version is? thank for replying. still waiting on help with this. my faces still look bad or exaggerated.
@jktoorc946 I think its the FaceDetailer node
Why are later versions getting less and less realistic? 2.3 almost looks like cgi, while older versions look photorealistic. I'm honestly a bit sad that 2.2 got taken down...
It's not just the realism either, as 2.2 is very versatile, being able to create just about anything, human or otherwise.
Meanwhile, 2.3 struggles to create even humans that don't look off, like oily cgi dolls or something... And just forget about anything fantasy coming out alright.
Yeah, I agree, 2.2 is still the most versatile one. With 2.3 I just wanted to try something different. They kinda serve their own purposes anyway. That said, looking at the usage stats so far, 2.3 ULTRA ended up being the most used, probably just because it’s the default and most people don’t bother changing it.
The auction system cut the available slots from 200 down to 100, and at the same time, monthly buzz around generation has been dropping a lot, so it’s tough to keep every version running.
I’ll just make a quick poll so people can pick which version they want as the default.
Agreed. I prefer 2.2 for generations, it has the best results. 2.1 isn't bad either, wouldn't give a second thought to using either of them.
I do not use 2.3/Ultra mainly for the same reasons as stated by the OP. Trying to make furries with it can result in oddities and other undesired results. Not to mention the level of realism isn't as good as the previous versions.
@ZyloO 2.2 is definitely the best, just tried 2.3 (no choice) and immediately I noticed that for me at least 2.2 was better and is possibly the best one, was looking forward to generate more werewolves then bam 2.2 was unavailable.
Thats been my issue too. 2.2 & 2.1 do better furry art by default imo.
@pixelshredder1i mentioned the same thing about furry art on 2.3.
i voted 2.2 & 2.1
Definitely voted for 2.2
2.2
Voted for 2.2 & 2.1. Any way to see the results on the strawpoll site?
Voted for 2.2 and 2.1. 2.1 is peak
2.3 ULTRA is perfect. I can't reproduce the amazing pictures I've generated with any other version of the model.
I’m gonna be honest, 2.1 is still the one I get the best results, and I’m always excited to go back to it when it becomes available in the generator.
So how many voted for 2.2 can't see results so am curious, also would like to know when 2.2 would be back up?
I think you can see them after voting, but 2.2 will be available in a few hours
@ZyloO when I voted i did see a live feed but I exited out and didn't see it again and thank God lol 2.2 does so well for my realistic monster or furry girls especially my werewolves which i just couldn't replicate with 2.3.
How do I know which loras work with this merge and how should I filter for them?
Is it SDXL 1.0 or 1.5 and can I use both?
Do I only need to filter for pony or better for pony 1.5 or so?
I don't understand why the generated results turn out different for me while i'm trying to make the 100% same results as your images. I used the exact prompts and settings for the images as yours, but they turn out different and worse than the one you showed. I'm clueless what i'm doing wrong :/
Are you doing a hi res fix and face fix after the initial generation?
Other tool - A1111 - Forge - Comfy - all produce slight or even bigger variations with same settings.
If you are using the external generator, your computer's specs change the output of the images if that makes sense
Anyone else find DMP2 work great for onsite generation?
Is the recommended sampler for site generation
Is there a list of camera angles that can be used for this model?
Please bring 2.3 back. I love Pony Realism but had better results with 2.3 (the non Ultra version).
Really Good models i find that version 2.3 Ultra is really good even if some of the most explicit NSFW need rework with loras and face detailler if theface is too much at a distance but definetly WOULD reccommend
How do put this model into SDAI on my android I can't get to my stable fusion storage on my android to put it in that way either
Didn't SDAI have a fatal update a while back? you should be able to open its filesystem through a computer find SDAI and move the file in with the rest of the checkpoints.
It's sad that fewer and fewer LoRA are being created for Pony. Plus, many of the old ones have been deleted, literally forcing people to switch to Illustrious. For example, for the recently released anime Clevatess only 21LoRA and all of them are only for Illustrious.
Hi! Using Pony Realism v2.3 + IP-Adapter Face ID Plus V2 in ComfyUI.
Issue: txt2img works fine with reference image, but img2img
creates character duplication (same face on both characters = twins).
Question: How do you prevent face duplication in img2img when
using IP-Adapter with multiple characters in one scene?
Current setup:
- IP-Adapter: weight 0.6, weight_faceidv2 0.9, end_at 0.75
- Negative: duplicate, bilateral symmetry, cloned face, similar features
- img2img denoise: 0.65
Any workflows that prevent this?
So recently dug up some old images made with this (2.2) and have to say it's still far superior to Illustrious for realism. Don't get me wrong, Illustrious is much better but I still use this in hi res or img2img
Dunno about Illustrious, but v2.2 is somehow the best. Or v2.1 alt due working exceptionally well with some sampler/scheduler combos.
In my experience over a year: Version 2.2 ( I will be always thankful for that!) is alsways the best because of the balance between lora using an the checkpoint delivery. Version 2.3 ist ok with some fixes but v2.3 ultra is not really useful (experimental is really the good label). ;)
How inpaint version supposue to work? Examples are empty workflow. When i try usual inpaint workflow, this model ingornic prompts
Hi, how can write good position like "front" "back" etc... ? Thanks
Front would be "portrait" or "straight-on", back would be "from behind", other views:
https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/tag_group%3Aimage_composition
2.3: what a fun model! it takes steps without breaking down (200-300+ steps). if you are prompt heavy its great to get everything in at really high quality and detail without oddities. so worth playing with. ty!
v2.1 Alt is still one of my favorite models. I wish I could get the same aesthetic from Rillsum.
2.3 ULTRA is still unmatched. What a masterpiece. Thank you very much for creating it.
GGUF version ?
have you found one?
Can someone help me please? I used the workspace from the image for v2.3 ultra above and apart from the filename for the checkpoint being different to the named download everything is the same. During ksampler the preview of the image looks fine but after going through vae decode it's coming out pixelated and multi coloured. I can only assume the version uploaded to civitai was not the one used to generate the images or I'm missing something.
I really don't know what workspace you are refering to, these images were created in A1111
I fine-tuned my model using the above base model, and it successfully generates images that match my intended prompts. However, I am facing an issue during image generation: the output does not accurately match the face of the person used in the fine-tuning images.
Is there any solution to improve facial similarity and ensure the generated images better match the fine-tuned face?
Unfortunately, it's still bad at generating groups of people (two, three).
Hello friends! It's a great model so far but it seems I am having trouble with feet! I thought at this point feet would be rendered normally but the toes are either clumped together or just lacking in detail. Can someone please help me out?
I'm yet to see any image generator that does a really good job with feet. Nano Banana Pro is the best I've seen, but of course it's very censored.
It's been a great model to use in stability matrix. One of my go tos when things don't wanna work right
Literally my favorite pony checkpoint ! Very good work 👌
Is there a list of recommended control net + ipadapters to pair with the checkpoint? I want to use it for some inpainting and detailing - where can I find the best/most compatible components to plug in?
this article has most everything u will ever need https://civitai.com/articles/17339
I use v2.2 and v2.3_ultra, but not create correct image with bra, panties, hair color. My prompt it's correct?
score_9, score_8_up, score_7_up, female, latina, milf, red_hair, medium_hair, green_eyes, blue_panties, red_bra, looking_at_viewerdepth of field, highly detailed, high contrast, film grain, Rim Lighting
you can try this for hair, instead of red_hair try: her hair is red, or: red haired woman, also like this: red braided hair, red curly hair, same with bra and panties, sometimes you need to be descriptive instead of prompting like this atribute_thing
Hello! where can i find the workflow for this? I'm new to this and don't know
you can either find workflows in comfyui templates, make your own or search models and filter the model type and workflows. theres tons of workflows and guides here look at articles for knowledge but keep in mind a lot of the workflows posted here are very complicated. the simple basic ones are built into comfy under templates. a lot of the images posted as examples for models usually have a workflow included in the image that u can just drop onto comfy and there it is. good luck bro
Here this article has most everything u will ever need https://civitai.com/articles/17339 or in the most pictures are the workflow included... For Comfyui just plug and play it inthe workflow window.
good at prompt adherence,but extremely bad at face generations. If you want to make a 3/4 shot, or your character should be full height, the face will be distorted at 99% of time. Use with Adetailer, or loras for better face generation. If comparing to stable yogi, I would recommend to use the second, as it has better results with faces.
I don't have a single workflow that lacks a face detailer stage, or at least a UHD upscale. It's always been this way, at least in my experience, since starting with a1111 years ago, and didn't change at all when I graduated to comfy. You always have to fix eyes at the very least. Some of the new zit and chroma models do really nice faces right off the bat, but I never expect perfect faces from any models straight out of the first sampler. I treat face detailing like a core stage. Something you just have to do. Takes five seconds. Plus you can dial in your specs with their own LoRAs and lock them in so they're mostly unaffected by the preceding steps. Always made more sense to me than trying to squeeze blood from a stone.
Anyone have a dataset workflow to pair with this checkpoint, like one reference image to multiple image dataset workflow
this article has most everything u will ever need https://civitai.com/articles/17339
I created and published a workflow to use the inpainting model. Check this out ! https://civitai.com/models/2483064?modelVersionId=2791685
just wanted to say, i am broke af, but if i had money, i would donate a bunch. your models rule since ages! TY!
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