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avoiding negatives can improve result on SDXL
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BE MY TESTIMONIALS
Improvements of Faces, Hands and overall prompt adherence
should have more crisp output
dialed down the photo burn
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LONG LIVE SDXL! ... (sorry 4 caps)
This
Another Epic drop, holy shittttt!!!!!!!!🥂❤️
FANTASIC. 💯
My favorite checkpoint just released new version. I've tried my old prompts, and it's definitely an improvement!
Good to hear that!
I'm seeing very significantly reduced nsfw capability in VXVII :(
True
use NSFW in positive prompt...
Any recommend settings?
Awesome model!!!!!
Thank you !
Hands down the best for realism!
Can I run this model on Fooocus??
yes you can
is CrystalClear a diffferent model series from LastFame? it seems quite a bit worse for casual realism
If you want that high end photorealistic style, go for LastFame. CrystalClear should be more versatile and give overall better images in terms of quality
I noticed that too, I'll stay on lastfame for now
This is an excellent model. Thanks a lot. But it seems to ignore negative prompts in ComfyUI, when used with lcm sampler. Confusing…
Not sure what your settings are but I've always used lcm sampler with a low cfg (between 1 to 2), and when using a really low cfg like 1-2 the negative prompt has little to no effect.
@barry9000 Thanks for the hint. It's the most basic workflow, just to keep things simple. I'll try to use different positive prompts then.
not having any luck in Comfyui - most images are coming out weird. Does anyone have a workflow to share?
Someone is posting your model as their own. Same CRC32 as epicrealismXL_vxviiCrystalclear.
https://civitai.com/models/1708448/eprelsm?modelVersionId=1933367
Also on Tensor.Art multiple times.
Thank you. Can't do much about tensor art but reported it here
@epinikion I noticed when I clicked on the models on TA it says "The model already exists. If you are the creator, please contact us to claim it." Mind you, I've been reporting sexualised images of minors to them for a while now and they keep saying they'll do something about them, yet months later they are still up.
@CoS1 yes they are not responsive at all. I tried to claim my models now, let’s see if it will result in anything
Hi, when can we expect an inpainting model?
I made one for lastfame but never put that up since sdxl doesn’t really work for inpainting as I have tested so far. But if that gets some upvotes I can share the inpainting models here.
@epinikion do it regardless brother
@epinikion Inpaint details is far from perfect but you can do it with small denoise and multiple steps. Replacing large areas is more or less imposible.
pretty awesome model, kinda hard to not make a great image with this one (and my crazy brain has tried :D), I hope the creator continues the great work they have been doing :)
P.S. I am still trying to figure out how to do more "digital illustration"/drawn styles like i was able to in the last version. if anyone has a suggestion would to cool :)
Nice work. Thank you!
Anyone know how well this model scores in terms of character consistency and LoRA responsiveness?
I've been using it in SillyTavern with a pre-fixed prompt that includes a relatively detailed character description, and find that sometimes it does very well, and other times the character look changes a fair amount. I have not tried using a LoRA.
This is a brilliant model. Such fantastic realism 😍😍
not having any luck in Comfyui - most images are coming out weird. Does anyone have a workflow to share?
Just use the defalt image generation and don't put anything in negative. SDXL needs almost no prompts. Euler a normal - 5cfg, 30steps. Impossible for that to produce a bad image.
i use a slightly modified version of this workflow:
https://civitai.com/models/1663229/lwf
cfg usually around 4.5 but i have gone up to 7 when i need to force some prompts. been getting fairly good results, it doesn't need neg prompts but even if you give them it shouldn't have to much of negative impact, for the sampler DPM++ 2M (Karras) is my goto.
one of the best SDXL out there
How to control nsfw? every single girl image i generate has her breasts out literally every single time, tried every trick in the book but still no use. how to get sfw images?
Which version? Prompt for clothing is the best way to avoid stuff like that.
sometimes it just works pretty well even nsfw, its just combination of prompts thus i believe and one must try to experiment i must find out more precisely but there might be many "random" rules, after all its ai, thus its kinda picky, it thus might be not some programmer hardcoded rules but ai deducted
On crystalclear, add NSFW in the prompt. LastFame dont need, rather, it should be slowed down with prompt negatives...
epinikion lastfame dmd2 literally every single one of my prompts has clothing details i tried to generate images with various outfits even turtleneck sweater prompts give nsfw results like nips out or spilling out, i even used clothing loras but it just doesnt work i cant manage to keep the breasts inside lol
fantastic8 fantastic8 doesnt work added nsfw, exposed breasts everything in the negative prompt just doesnt work
dhirenmainali705 And that is bad, how?
what upscaler and setting you reccomend for this model ?
It seems almost impossible to get covered/clothed chest. Will almost always just show bare breasts. There is pretty much always nipples or entire breasts out.
Any tips? Btw I prefer the LastFame version.
not if you describe what type of clothes you want in your prompt. or just say dressed in this color or that color outfit
@jch66 Im doing that and it still wants exposed breasts. Putting different version of covered breasts, and different kind of clothing, "exposed breasts" in negative, heavy weights, tried it all none of it works.
i put naked on negative, work some times
The best for Nsfw for me...
Try PerfectionAmateurXLIL
eoa42 I will try it thank you very much for the tip, I am however more likely to use LCM models because I still use an old VGA 1080ti and the generation is very slow with the script I made...
I loved to generate women with shiny tanned skin in VXVI with tan and (shiny skin:1.4) prompts and it worked amazingly.
Now VXVII doesn't do any of that with the same prompts. It only generates dried skin (which is realistic and beautiful, but not to my liking).
Can you look into it and improve in the next version?
Shinny oiled skin
I use Fooocus almost exclusively and its great interface. Yours models are probably the best models I've ever used for photorealism. (lastFame(realism) and CrystalClear. And I've tried a lot of them ( SDXL, Pony, Illustrious) Very good adherence to prompts, very compliant with Loras. And you're right, almost nothing in the negative prompts. Thanks again, THANK YOU very much, I don't know if you can do any better...
Maybe a next surprise, soon?
This applies to me. I prefer Fooocus for image generation. For a long time I favored IrisLux and then switched to Donutsdeliverymixv3, and these are still among my favorites, but EpiCRealism (CrystalClear) is the best so far. Two setbacks (from my point of view): The eyes sometimes lack integrity, unless you do super man steps. I prefer 30 steps because I'm impatient, but with a detailer and enhancement Styles; the other thing is NSFW, where it tends towards fellatio when I prompt for anilingus. :D
Great work! What upscaler and sampler/scheduler settings do you recommend for your model ?
could you please share schedular to use
See my Samples, i mostly use 2M SDE, but they all work
epinikion i am asking about schedular.
leyermo1234204 Exponential
epinikion thank you so much
Love this one.
Do you use comfyui? If yes, what workflow?
Can we get a dmd2 version for crystal clear?
yes, dmd version
Use the dmd lora.
Can't get good inpaint results in these, tried a few different workflows, EpicRealism always has very poor transitions (big noticeable seams, bad proportions), vs Juggernaut XL (also just a base model, not inpaint-tuned). Any tips or is this just how it is?
Epic Loras n chkpoints r AMAZINGLY good, jus' ab d best in Civitai!!! I get fantastic results of realism usin Epic's work, thank u so MUCH 4 sharing your amazin worx with us users!!!! Bless ya!!
Which workflow do you use?
Thank you
mauriziomkr Hi hi Maurizio, if by workflow u mean how I generate, I use only Civi's own generator coz my sweet lappie duzn have d power 2 run SD sadly. My NVIDIA is 1650ti 4Gb. But if u mean wat chkpoints, loras etc I use, chk my pix, all d info is there. Bless ya!
epinikion D THNX goes to u, bless ya!!
SinStim12 Yeah I meant how you generate. Makes sense that you use civitai is your gpu isnt' powerful enough.
SinStim12 I do not know the characteristics of the NVIDIA 1650 TI 4 GBS, but I have the 1060 basic with 3 GBS and I can perfectly generate both in SDXL and in Flux in Forge. Obviously in Flux it takes approx 4 minutes every image, it is not practical, but the fact is that I can.
In SDXL I use the LORA of DMD2, 8 steps, CFG 1, Sampler LCM Exponential, size 1216x832 and generates 4 images in less than 4 minutes. No credit limits, uncensored, without control of any kind.
Your GPU is newer and I suppose superior to mine. Try it with that configuration that I use, I hope it will work for you.
For me is the best!!!!!!!
Do you use comfyui? If yes, what workflow?
Hi!
Which version is the best for porn?
I admire your honesty lol!
Use LastFame for optimal porn : P
@the__Realist Nice :P
One of the best, flexible, beautiful end result when using the right prompt, I love it, thank you!
Hi
Curious to know what you're working on next : ) ?
Real world
@epinikion okay have fun... hope you'll come back some day and give us another awesome model : )
One of my Favs! Love it :)
Love this generator ♥️ constantly use this.
I'd love to use this as a face detailer model. Is there any inpaint version of the crystal clear version available? :)
you can use any model as face detailer in comfyui if you set the nodes right
@awesomesnipee You can use it, yes, but the inpaint models are specialized on getting rid of hard edges between the inpaint area and its surrounding.
Have gotten great results. Much appreciated!
Great looking model (CrystalClear version), probably the best i've tried. But why do you need to use weights like (hand in hair:1.3) to do what you want? the cfg I use is 4.5 but 7 doesn't seem to help.
Still one of the best checkpoints to date❤️
Thank you mate ❤️
Really good with texts on skin or necklaces.
text? can it do text?
how to get consistent faces with this one??? please can anyone tell
Training a lora is fast and simple
Step one is realizing that consistent faces or “characters” is essentially impossible with any image model without a lot of time and effort and knowing the TOOLS available to you. You can’t replicate a face without some extra tools like loras, controlnet, instantID, textual inversions (embeddings), etc. ControlNet Union SDXL is one of the easiest ways to get started. Text embeddings are fairly easy to create. Even loras have become much easier to make and can truly lock in a consistent “character”. Unfortunately, just learning how to set up a simple text to image chain is actually the easiest part. All the interesting stuff often requires extra learning and work, but that’s part of the fun.
1. creating a lora (you can do that online on tensor art for example and quite fast and cheap) 2. some models (not tested with epicrealism) creating more consistant faces if you give your model an acutal name like: Jane Doe. "realistic photography of Jane Doe..."
do you have any tips for upscaling? I've used it and many other models in the past and for some reason everything is coming out really blurry at 2x. Never had this issue before.
Friends, if you have carefully read the author's introduction, the recommended magnification limit for all XL models is 1.5 times. If you need a higher resolution, you can use the 4xNomos8kSCHAT-L model to magnify it 1.5 times and then use the 2-8x model to magnify the external space.
@hanekawa0917792 Where did I mention that? 2x upscale is no problem at all with this model(s)
@hanekawa0917792 I have used 1.5x, 2x, 2.5x, no difference. I have used this model in the past and other models in the series with no issues. So I feel like I am forgetting something that I used to do.
@hanekawa0917792 I have used 1.5x, 2x, 2.5x, no difference. I have used this model in the past and other models in the series with no issues. So I feel like I am forgetting something that I used to do.
@epinikion Maybe you have misunderstood what I said. The author I mentioned is not you. I have been using models from your series and the results are great. Of course, I also use models from other authors. Most authors will explain the parameter settings for the upgrade.
@TomatoAlien Maybe there is a problem with your settings. Do you have an email address? You can send me a private message and give me a workflow to try to solve the problem.
@hanekawa0917792 that’s totally nonsense since the upscalers are based upon 2x or even 4x upscales. @TomatoAlien probably you just missing the upscaler model or using a weird one or a weird aspect ratio which causes this behavior
@epinikion @epinikion @TomatoAlien's response was that the model was blurry after enlarging. I asked him to try it at 1.5, because many authors of XL models recommend that the magnification is best at 1.2-1.5. I never said that your model can be enlarged to 1.5 at most. I agree with your later point of view. Maybe he used an inappropriate enlarged model or unsuitable scale parameter settings, and omitted the upgrader model. How to make the workflow run?
Easy solution: Use an AI upscaler, just google it there are a lot, I use two services and I got pretty 4x upscales with no distortions, no quality loss and zero artifacts
Can I use it in Fooocus?
Sure
@epinikion thank you! Im gonna try it!
Really great!
Really nice.
One of the best SDXL models available here on civit! Thanks for that.
But where are the basic parameters to set or recommended? Steps, cfg, sampler, scheduler, ecc..?
This SDXL checkpoint is the one giving me the least split chin cleft chin museum of horror faces, well done, also overall quality is very good
All the loras I trained using crystalclear need dmd2/lcm/simple. Other sampler/sched just wouldn't work. I wonder why, @epinikion ?
can I use this to improve hair realism on a reference image?
yes
Very good, I use for The Sims 4 Model creation.
Okay, wow. Ty!
wait what, I'm a little lost on what you mean by that, but super intrigued. What do you mean exactly?
@bigbearpun11 that he is doing a lora or the Sims 4...
@bigbearpun11 The model prompts perfectly to "Character in the Sims 4", or Skyrim, high octane render etc. using tag Character Sheeting. This has alot of the base of original SDXL model so most Lora can work with cfg stretched to 16 then moving the negative prompts with a low token (low detail, blurry, jpeg artifacts etc). Then move to photoshop/blender etc stretch, very fun to do. Doesn't look like a sprite from the early 2000's pasted onto a model because it blends in the original Sims 4 Textures.
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