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    DreamShaper XL - Now Turbo!

    Also check out the 1.5 DreamShaper page

    Check the version description below (bottom right) for more info and add a ❤️ to receive future updates.
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    Alpha2 is a bit old now. I suggest you switch to the Turbo or Lightning version.
    DreamShaper is a general purpose SD model that aims at doing everything well, photos, art, anime, manga. It's designed to go against other general purpose models and pipelines like Midjourney and DALL-E.

    "It's Turbotime"

    Turbo version should be used at CFG scale 2 and with around 4-8 sampling steps. This should work only with DPM++ SDE Karras (NOT 2M). You can use this with LCM sampler, but don't do it unless you need speed vs quality.
    Sampler comparison at 8 steps: https://civarchive.com/posts/951781
    UPDATE: Lightning version targets 3-6 sampling steps at CFG scale 2 and should also work only with DPM++ SDE Karras. Avoid going too far above 1024 in either direction for the 1st step.

    No need to use refiner and this model itself can be used for highres fix and tiled upscaling.
    Examples have been generated using Auto1111, but you can achieve similar results with this ComfyUI Workflow: https://pastebin.com/79XN01xs

    Basic style comparison: https://civarchive.com/images/4427452

    If you train on this, make sure to use DPM++ SDE sampler and appropriate steps/cfg.

    Keep in mind Turbo currently cannot be used commercially unless you get permission from StabilityAI. Get a membership here: https://stability.ai/membership

    You can use the Turbo version (not Lightning) as a non-Turbo model with DPM++ 2M SDE Karras / Euler at cfg 6 and 20-40 steps. Here is a comparison I made with some of the best non-Turbo XL models (with regular settings and turbo settings): https://civarchive.com/posts/1414848
    I have no idea why anyone would prefer 40 steps over 8, but you have the option.

    Old description referring to Alpha 2 and before

    Finetuned over SDXL1.0.
    Even if this is still an alpha version, I think it's already much better compared to the first alpha based on xl0.9.
    For the workflows you need Math plugins for comfy (or to reimplement some parts manually).
    Basically I do the first gen with DreamShaperXL, then I upscale to 2x and finally a do a img2img steo with either DreamShaperXL itself, or a 1.5 model that i find suited, such as DreamShaper7 or AbsoluteReality.

    What does it do better than SDXL1.0?

    • No need for refiner. Just do highres fix (upscale+i2i)

    • Better looking people

    • Less blurry edges

    • 75% better dragons 🐉

    • Better NSFW

    Old DreamShaper XL 0.9 Alpha Description

    Finally got permission to share this. It's based on SDXL0.9, so it's just a training test. It definitely has room for improvement.

    Workflow for this one is a bit more complicated than usual, as it's using AbsoluteReality or DreamShaper7 as "refiner" (meaning I'm generating with DreamShaperXL and then doing "highres fix" with AR or DS7).

    Results are quite nice for such an early stage.

    I might disable the comment section as I'm sure some people will judge this even if it's early stage. I also don't think this is on par with SD1.5 DreamShaper yet, but it's useless to pour resources into this as SDXL1.0 is about to be released.

    Have fun and make sure to add a ❤️ to receive future updates.

    Non commercial license is forced by Stability at the moment.

    Description

    Turbo version should be used at CFG scale 2 and with around 4-8 sampling steps. Should work with DPM++ SDE Karras (or Normal). Comparison of other samplers: https://civitai.com/posts/951781

    Can be used for highres fix and tiled upscaling. Please check the examples.

    If you train on this, make sure to use DPM++ SDE.

    FAQ

    Comments (16)

    steamrickFeb 7, 2024
    CivitAI

    What's new with the v2?

    Lykon
    Author
    Feb 7, 2024· 1 reaction

    test it out :)

    jaxkrFeb 8, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    Will there be a SFW version for v2? Also, what's your methodology for training a SFW version?

    Lykon
    Author
    Feb 8, 2024· 2 reactions

    Yes, there will be.

    Lykon
    Author
    Feb 15, 2024

    done.

    smoonHackerFeb 8, 2024
    CivitAI

    Awesome Checkpoint! using your specs an Upscaled 1536x2048 image took 1 min. 55.0 sec to generate.

    GPU: Geforce RTX 4070 TI

    automatic1111 v151

    Lykon
    Author
    Feb 8, 2024· 1 reaction

    Auto1111 vram handling. I'm on a 4090 and if I upscale to 1.5x it's fine, if I go 2x it hangs for an hour.
    Use ComfyUI (but careful, high resolution leads to tiling if you're out of vram, and tiling is fast but can deform your result at 0.5 denoise).

    Lykon
    Author
    Feb 8, 2024· 2 reactions

    Still, compare 5 steps at that resolution to the usual 15-20 steps you need for regular models ;)

    Lykon
    Author
    Feb 8, 2024· 4 reactions
    CivitAI

    Example comfyui workflow: https://pastebin.com/79XN01xs

    anon2071Feb 8, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    Op, you're the best, this model rocks from Anime to Realistic, and especially in the middle, Semireal, it has a more realistic look than Aniverse, but just better i cant explain it. Incredible work

    Lykon
    Author
    Feb 8, 2024· 6 reactions
    CivitAI

    Needless to say, v2 still requires cfg to be set to 2 and should still be used at 5~8 steps gen and 5~8 steps highres fix. And, as the name suggests, mainly with DPM++ SDE sampler. However, it seems v2 is more forgiving and also works with other samplers, so definitely give it a try!

    Big images take a long time on auto1111 depending on your VRAM (stuff goes into shared memory).

    phil866Feb 11, 2024

    actually i’ve had cases where steps=15 gives best results, rather than 5-8.

    8 was okay. but 15 was definitely better.

    i’m guessing that only applies to super long prompts.

    PBAoEFeb 11, 2024· 1 reaction

    Recommend to try new "stable-diffusion-webui-forge" for auto1111 with big SDXL speed up.

    phil866Feb 13, 2024

    just made a post about it to prove the point.
    In this case, "10 okay, but 15 is best output"
    https://civitai.com/posts/1416137

    Lykon
    Author
    Feb 15, 2024

    @phil866 I replied you there, 15 looks overcooked to me.

    J77gonzalesFeb 9, 2024· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    Dude, what a brilliant model! It's the only Turbo Model that actually works for me. Not only that, the results are amazing!