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    DreamShaper XL - Now Turbo!

    Also check out the 1.5 DreamShaper page

    Check the version description below (bottom right) for more info and add a ❤️ to receive future updates.
    Do you like what I do? Consider supporting me on Patreon 🅿️ to get exclusive tips and tutorials, or feel free to buy me a coffee

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    Alpha2 is a bit old now. I suggest you switch to the Turbo or Lightning version.
    DreamShaper is a general purpose SD model that aims at doing everything well, photos, art, anime, manga. It's designed to go against other general purpose models and pipelines like Midjourney and DALL-E.

    "It's Turbotime"

    Turbo version should be used at CFG scale 2 and with around 4-8 sampling steps. This should work only with DPM++ SDE Karras (NOT 2M). You can use this with LCM sampler, but don't do it unless you need speed vs quality.
    Sampler comparison at 8 steps: https://civarchive.com/posts/951781
    UPDATE: Lightning version targets 3-6 sampling steps at CFG scale 2 and should also work only with DPM++ SDE Karras. Avoid going too far above 1024 in either direction for the 1st step.

    No need to use refiner and this model itself can be used for highres fix and tiled upscaling.
    Examples have been generated using Auto1111, but you can achieve similar results with this ComfyUI Workflow: https://pastebin.com/79XN01xs

    Basic style comparison: https://civarchive.com/images/4427452

    If you train on this, make sure to use DPM++ SDE sampler and appropriate steps/cfg.

    Keep in mind Turbo currently cannot be used commercially unless you get permission from StabilityAI. Get a membership here: https://stability.ai/membership

    You can use the Turbo version (not Lightning) as a non-Turbo model with DPM++ 2M SDE Karras / Euler at cfg 6 and 20-40 steps. Here is a comparison I made with some of the best non-Turbo XL models (with regular settings and turbo settings): https://civarchive.com/posts/1414848
    I have no idea why anyone would prefer 40 steps over 8, but you have the option.

    Old description referring to Alpha 2 and before

    Finetuned over SDXL1.0.
    Even if this is still an alpha version, I think it's already much better compared to the first alpha based on xl0.9.
    For the workflows you need Math plugins for comfy (or to reimplement some parts manually).
    Basically I do the first gen with DreamShaperXL, then I upscale to 2x and finally a do a img2img steo with either DreamShaperXL itself, or a 1.5 model that i find suited, such as DreamShaper7 or AbsoluteReality.

    What does it do better than SDXL1.0?

    • No need for refiner. Just do highres fix (upscale+i2i)

    • Better looking people

    • Less blurry edges

    • 75% better dragons 🐉

    • Better NSFW

    Old DreamShaper XL 0.9 Alpha Description

    Finally got permission to share this. It's based on SDXL0.9, so it's just a training test. It definitely has room for improvement.

    Workflow for this one is a bit more complicated than usual, as it's using AbsoluteReality or DreamShaper7 as "refiner" (meaning I'm generating with DreamShaperXL and then doing "highres fix" with AR or DS7).

    Results are quite nice for such an early stage.

    I might disable the comment section as I'm sure some people will judge this even if it's early stage. I also don't think this is on par with SD1.5 DreamShaper yet, but it's useless to pour resources into this as SDXL1.0 is about to be released.

    Have fun and make sure to add a ❤️ to receive future updates.

    Non commercial license is forced by Stability at the moment.

    Description

    Lightning version should be used at CFG scale 2 and with around 3-6 sampling steps. Should work with DPM++ SDE Karras (or Normal). It might work on other samplers, but please hold your judgement on anything that differs from the suggested settings.

    Can be used for highres fix and tiled upscaling. Please check the examples.

    If you train on this, make sure to use DPM++ SDE Karras at the correct target steps and cfg scale.

    FAQ

    Comments (269)

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    anderspass957Feb 26, 2024
    CivitAI

    Sorry for being such a newb, but I'm not getting crisp images after img2img upscale. Can anyone recommend some way to get realistic images sharp?

    Stable_ConfuzionFeb 26, 2024

    Please share your upscale method/settings and what UI your using, comfy,forge,fooocus etc.

    anderspass957Feb 27, 2024

    @Stable_Confuzion A1111, using the recommended 8 step/2 cfg, and then upscale 2x via IMG2IMG. I have no upscaler (this is what I need :D )

    wyxzddsjj919Feb 27, 2024
    CivitAI

    Lightning model is good at real photography style, not friendly to other art styles (using sdxl prompt style node in COMFYUI to modify the art style can not make it draw cartoons, comics, etc.), input other art style effects in the positive prompt word input box it still produces realistic photos. The lightning model doesn't get smaller, does it mask some data during training to get faster generation? Or need special keyword activation? (Same problem with the original Lightning LORA)

    sonidosenarmoniaFeb 27, 2024
    CivitAI

    Everytime I generate a woman there's the same woman appearing in all my gens. It's not only on this model, but most finetuned ones.

    xppenTCMar 3, 2024

    same

    neoxygong1994Feb 28, 2024
    CivitAI

    Hello! Impressive work! May I know how do you finetune on sdxl turbo? Is it the same as fine-tuning on SDXL (except noise scheduler as mentioned)? Any hint is appreciated. Thanks!

    qazxswFeb 28, 2024
    CivitAI

    really need upscale parameters instructions.

    I tried a few times to make 4K image, and they the process are not only slow but generating unwanted artifacts.

    stormy1985Feb 28, 2024· 3 reactions
    CivitAI

    With all the turbo versions I am having a lot of problems with my hands, either they are deformed or they come out like wrinkled skin. Is there any way to repair that? or at least give me a good base for inpaint?

    3101837Mar 4, 2024

    Sounds like your CFG might be too high

    lobabobloblawFeb 29, 2024· 4 reactions
    CivitAI

    Speed is not necessarily quality in this case—any chance of a LoRA or SDXL base version?

    rshaar559568Mar 1, 2024· 5 reactions
    CivitAI

    I had high hopes for this model. It's good, don't get me wrong. But it was poor at handling my prompts. To be fair, I did a comparison with DreamShaper 8, which is based on SD 1.5. I found that DreamShaper 8 respects my prompt better in most cases!

    AerthMar 2, 2024

    Any example of prompt please?

    qazxswMar 2, 2024

    true, it is missing a lot of prompt elements. I can't wait for future updates

    hablabaMar 1, 2024· 10 reactions
    CivitAI

    The lightning variant is awesome BUT I can’t seem to train a Lora on top of it. Can you release a non turbo or lightning version so we can do normal training on top and then add lightning ourselves if we desire to?

    qazxswMar 5, 2024· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    I couldn't upscale images to 4k resolution without getting defections. What upscaling setting do you recommend? Or the current upscaling method is just not good for XL models?

    felixfelicis42Mar 10, 2024

    start at same aspect ratio, only increase by 1.5-2x at a time. play with denoise to keep original details.

    qazxswMar 19, 2024

    @felixfelicis42 but less denoising strength = more blured image

    evertonfagnerMar 5, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI
    wonderful model. congratulations to those involved. I haven't gotten good results on video via Animatediff. The image content is great, but always with a low-resolution texture.
    phil866Mar 6, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    Hey Lykon,
    Somewhat unrelated thing.. Some jerk is name-squatting on the "Stable Cascade" model name.
    Might you either upload a "Stable Cascade StableSwarmUI" official model, and/or talk to the mods?
    Tried reporting him, but mods didnt do anything.

    I toyed with the idea of uploading the proper model myself, but probably better coming from you or one of the other official guys?

    yifang0826Mar 8, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    Using turbo to get bad results on diffusers. Why?
    https://xyf-image.oss-cn-beijing.aliyuncs.com/img/202403081141621.png

    syrusxlMar 10, 2024

    I don't understand how you can possibly get such results. I have used low steps and even as high as 75 steps. What sampler are you using?

    1892173Mar 8, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    i'm not that familiar with SDXL yet, not to mention lightning and maybe i'm missing something:

    how do you upscale and add detail properly? especially with 2d/anime images. as i mentioned i'm using the lightning model. latent upscale seems to do nothing in terms of added detail and the image gets not very sharp if you zoom in a little. upscaling with 4x-AnimeSharp/4x-UltraSharp etc. gives very good results in terms of crispiness/sharpness, but theres no added detail either.

    i upscale in img2img tab + ultimate sd upscale with steps 2, cfg 2, upscale by x2, denoise 0.45 (above that i get mutations)

    the base image was generated with steps 4, cfg 2, 832x1216, DPM++ SDE Karras

    normally if you do a x2 latent upscale with SD1.5 you get tons of details/sharpness.

    any help is appreciated!

    ckotty3249Mar 14, 2024

    try to "downgrade"(lowres and blur for example) your image then upscale it with ultimate sd upscale to add details

    WeirdScienceXMar 9, 2024· 5 reactions
    CivitAI

    I tried this in comfyui and the results are very poor compared to Juggernaut or even a base lighting 8 step.

    TurboHippoMar 12, 2024· 3 reactions

    That's weird, I got better result in dreamshaper lightning compared to juggernaut lightning every time (using forge). After some testing juggernaut sometimes introduce artifact in finger and face and have less diverse style compared to dreamshaper.

    Juan_SunsetMar 10, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    What upscaler should I use ?and why am i getting bad faces in some images?

    yofoton174609Mar 12, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    This is the best model in the entire world right now. Its not too big, and its certainly extremely fast. Just large enough to use with the loras you desire.

    rastoboyMar 13, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    As it's rendering I see good looking output, but by the time it's done everything comes out looking like this. any ideas? cfg scale is 2 and sampling steps 7 in this case.

    https://imgur.com/a/GlWJ2Ff

    MOONSTAAMar 13, 2024

    what VAE are you using, i got the same issue and just needed the SDXL VAE

    rastoboyMar 13, 2024

    @MOONSTAA hmm it's vae-ft-mse-840000-ema-pruned.safetensors. thanks for the hint! can you have more than one VAE?

    SilandaMar 14, 2024

    @rastoboy That's the SD 1.5 VAE. You can't use it for SDXL models.

    I would use this: https://huggingface.co/madebyollin/sdxl-vae-fp16-fix

    rastoboyMar 15, 2024

    @Silanda thanks!

    rastoboyMar 15, 2024

    progress! but now everything looks like early dall-e. using recommended sampling steps/cfg scale

    https://imgur.com/a/bjP8Wbe

    rastoboyMar 15, 2024

    @MOONSTAA i am using SDXL VAE as well now

    SilandaMar 17, 2024· 1 reaction

    @rastoboy If you're using the turbo or lightning versions, steps 6-8, cfg 2-3.5. Sampler depends on the UI. Using the Lightning version of the model with SDNext, I use the DPM SDE sampler with Karras disabled. The Karras samplers can create noisy images with Lightning models, though I haven't noticed it with DreamShaper.

    Also make sure you're generating at the correct res. 1024x1024 is default. You don't have to stick to that, but it's best that you don't change the total number of pixels too much. Don't gen at 512x512 like a 1.5 model.

    unihcMar 13, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    Can someone please help me to configure this for draw things AI app on iPad?

    WaifusAwayMar 25, 2024

    Hey I am using Draw Things on Ipad pro 2020 and a Macbook Air with M1. What do you need help with?

    RheisSivviMar 18, 2024· 3 reactions
    CivitAI

    I love this model, but I'd love it even more if it didn't need such wordy prompts to get a good quality image. Otherwise, it's one of the most flexible models I've ever tested!

    condzero1950Mar 19, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    I thought I would share this with Lykon. Saw this on Russian website:

    Stable Diffusion

    As you know from my previous articles , in the world of AI, some maniacs are in charge of naming things. In the best Masonic tradition, everything is named so that no one can guess what means what, and AI developers can justify their huge salaries. I'm happy to report that Stable Diffusion is a happy exception: the name makes perfect sense.

    Stable Diffusion is a name that reflects the core technologies and principles of this AI architecture

    arturgawrylak513Mar 19, 2024· 4 reactions
    CivitAI

    is there a quality difference between lightning and turbo?

    XL10_UserMar 21, 2024· 2 reactions

    So far I understand is: Full model quality is better than lightning and lighting is better than turbo. So, use full or lightning. Turbo has the least quality of those three. Turbo is for those, who has very limited hardware resources.

    arturgawrylak513Mar 22, 2024· 1 reaction

    @XL10_User this is very suprising. is there a big difference between full model and lightning?

    XL10_UserMar 22, 2024· 1 reaction
    amazingbeautyMar 31, 2024

    important question that doesn't have anyone to talk about answering about it directly...that's bad.

    thanks you asked we may get useful reply.

    amazingbeautyMar 31, 2024

    @arturgawrylak513 yet another important point that you find no one care about ! , waiting for anyone confirm the quality differences ..

    arturgawrylak513Apr 12, 2024· 1 reaction

    @XL10_User that's comparison for normal sdxl, not dreamshaper

    AughrodineMay 31, 2024

    @XL10_User Where is the full model?

    yinquest11Mar 28, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    can i know how to use it ? what i found in internet that show SDXL is a model,typicly we can only just use 1 model right ? how to add this model deamshaper together

    851572Apr 5, 2024

    SDXL is a version of stable diffusion, there is also SD1.5 and a few others, but SDXL generally more powerful, you can use alot of different models just by placing them in the "models>Stable-diffusion" folder inside your stable diffusion webui folder.

    yinquest11Apr 8, 2024

    @Hati_Hrodvitnisson ohhh i got it thankQ

    SexyTwistsMar 29, 2024· 8 reactions
    CivitAI

    There are a lot of photorealistic models out there, but this is the most versatile and well-rounded checkpoint I've found so far. It may not be the absolute best for every single thing, but it's very good at most things and makes a great all-purpose model.

    Juan_SunsetMar 30, 2024· 6 reactions
    CivitAI

    what Hires. fix should I use??

    jmuellerApr 9, 2024· 1 reaction

    start at 0.3 denoise and go up to 0.4 denoise with some added steps to taste and try the ultramix series, namely the ultramix balanced, which you can find here https://upscale.wiki/w/index.php?title=Model_Database&oldid=1571 in the old upscaler database. other upscalers that may work would be the 4x NMKD superscale, the foolhardy remacri or the NMKD siax.

    rastoboyMar 31, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    any tips on getting the camera angle to behave? none of my techniques i've used with other models are working, such as "side view" or "rear view". even if i weight the heck out of them.

    rastoboyApr 1, 2024

    i have just discovered that they work ok with very short prompts, but not longer ones. sure would be nice to do it with longer prompts! :-D

    zorlond871Apr 7, 2024

    I've gotten "view from side" and "wide shot" to work, but not reliably. Basically have to request a dozen pictures at once for a fair chance the model decides to listen.

    phil866Apr 7, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    Im getting lovely images out of the Lightning version.. except the hands. Oh, the hands :(
    Any suggestions on how I can autogenerate decent hands at least 50% of the time, without any manual fixing? Right now its about 20%, if that :(
    Using BadDream doesnt help.

    I should say that it depends on the prompt. A very simple prompt actually gives really nice hands! But other prompts.. yikes.

    PhotoshopArtApr 13, 2024· 1 reaction

    Wait for the SD 3.0. I don't know what else to say.

    Mech4nimaLApr 15, 2024

    In Lightning negative prompts have no effect (afaik), this could also be the case for negative embeddings I guess.

    tmhyApr 16, 2024

    This approach to automatically dealing with bad hands looks promising: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLSIegjSEDg

    phil866Apr 12, 2024· 8 reactions
    CivitAI

    can’t use neg on lightning right?

    which is why i’d really really like a non turbo version of 2.1 pretty please?

    would also like more flexibility in which step to continue as when using it as a refiner

    SAC020Apr 13, 2024· 3 reactions
    CivitAI

    I would like to train on this but no idea how to set sampler, cfg or steps in the trainer, it doesn't seem to have that option. Is there a non-lightning flavor that I could train on? Thx

    SAC020Apr 15, 2024

    @Lykon pls

    diogodApr 17, 2024· 1 reaction

    @SAC020 You should just train on SDXL base. It works on any non-pony sdxl models including lightning. All my models work pretty much the same.

    yinquest11Apr 14, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    the speed for generatig a picture is extremy slowy when using sdxl model , how can i fixed it

    nkonkoApr 20, 2024

    It should be about 2-3 seconds on a 3090 or equivalent, with 4-5 samples. xformers gave me extra speed also.

    yinquest11Apr 20, 2024

    @nkonko what is xformers,btw im using rtx4070 laptop , what mean 4-5 samples

    nkonkoApr 20, 2024· 1 reaction

    @yinquest11 Ok quick guide for you to try and get xformers running:

    1. go to your automatic1111 install directory

    2. Rename venv to something like venv_old
    3. Modify webui-user.bat to have this line:
    set COMMANDLINE_ARGS= --xformers
    4. run webui-user.bat

    You can go back then if it doesn't work (it should on your gpu) by deleting venv and renaming vend_old to venv.

    This gets xformers working and speeds up generation. But I wouldn't expect blazing desktop gpu speeds with a laptop gpu.

    yinquest11Apr 21, 2024

    @nkonko hii tQ for your tips , i had edit my user.bat , btw i havent rename the venv cause im a little confuse about that , btw how can i setting the "samples" cause om using chinese version weiui haha so i dont really clear which button corresponds to

    nkonkoMay 5, 2024

    @yinquest11 samples is iterations or steps.
    venv is the installation folder inside your automatic1111 folder so like stable-diffusion-webui/venv
    its where the dependencies get installed and configured for your specific hardware/driver signature.

    you can rename this to venv and try running with new specification like --xformers to have it set up new venv for you automatically, and if it doesn't work you can go back to old venv by deleting venv and renaming _venv to venv.

    Hope you got it to work.

    yinquest11May 8, 2024

    @nkonko ya i understand tQ for your explanation

    az420Apr 21, 2024· 6 reactions
    CivitAI

    Is there a non-lightning or non-turbo version of this? The outputs can be great but for lots of detail I find the end result looks... imprecise.

    m_goApr 25, 2024

    Totall agree... I do not mind the time, just want best results.

    kiskami156Apr 25, 2024

    You didnt read the model descriptions first line?

    az420Apr 25, 2024

    @kiskami156 I am not sure I am seeing what you are.... Is it just that I can use it as Non Turbo by having CFG and steps higher? The issue I was getting was at higher steps everything seemed oversaturated, but the concepts were excellent so I was hoping to get the concepts without all the saturation. I mean, at the end of the day I suppose I was interested in a basic non turbo version, and not just using the turbo version as a non turbo version, but maybe that doesn't make sense. allll good :)

    kiskami156Apr 25, 2024

    @az420 there is an SD 1.5 version of Dreamshaper - I guess you need that.

    az420Apr 25, 2024· 2 reactions

    @kiskami156 Are you implying that all SDXL are either Turbo or Lightning? Maybe I am misunderstanding... I have the 1.5 model as well :). No worries!

    yinquest11Apr 22, 2024· 5 reactions
    CivitAI

    what is the vae used?

    go_djentleMay 4, 2024

    Would love to know also

    yinquest11May 4, 2024

    @go_djentle i think will be none or sdxl vae

    gogorangers890Apr 26, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    dood, you aware that SDE takes twice as long as eulers or dpm m2 ? so in the end this is no turbo, takes as long as 20 euler steps ! And on top of that - SDE is the only sampler that works fine, other ones are so borked , can you fix this ?

    opopopopApr 29, 2024· 3 reactions
    CivitAI

    Will we see a new Dreamshaper based on Pony Diffusion? I think it'd be something that the community want to see.

    derpmagicianMay 1, 2024· 4 reactions
    CivitAI

    What is the difference between the Turbo and the Lightning models?
    Which is faster?
    Which gives you better results at less steps?

    3dartalMay 1, 2024

    I have the same question!

    kiskami156May 1, 2024· 2 reactions

    turbo - faster, lightning better q but more steps

    Maya_H_123May 9, 2024

    @kiskami156 That makes no sense according to the description:

    - Turbo version should be used at CFG scale 2 and with around 4-8 sampling steps

    - Lightning version targets 3-6 sampling steps at CFG scale 2

    kiskami156May 9, 2024

    @Maya_H_123 i've used turbo with 4-6 steps and was faster than lightning with 4-6 steps, thats my experience, your could be different

    solilokissMay 1, 2024· 4 reactions
    CivitAI

    wish there was on-site gen for this :(

    ConqueeftadorMay 2, 2024· 12 reactions
    CivitAI

    I so wish there was a non-Turbo XL version! I get perfect images at CFG 1-3, but they bear only a passing resemblance to the prompt. If there was a model that looked as good as DreamShaperXL but actually paid attention to the tokens, I would love it.

    gogorangers890May 6, 2024

    dood use 20 steps and euler A - crispest and best sampler for this model, the ones recommended are not the best , somehow euler A can bring very crisp detail

    ConqueeftadorMay 7, 2024· 2 reactions

    @gogorangers890 Crisp detail isn't the issue… it's the lack of prompt adherence. I get beautiful images out of this model, but because the CFG is so low it's like having a professional camera that points itself in a random direction three out of four times.

    pvfreis686May 15, 2024

    @Conqueeftador I've been doing some tests with Pixart-Sigma (the fp16 version) as the base model for prompt adherence, then another pass with DreamShaperXL for detail and it's been looking pretty great, recommend you looking into that if you got the RAM/VRAM for it. (Here's the workflow I'm using, with some changes: https://civitai.com/articles/5267)

    jAC3KMdz3M5HMay 3, 2024· 12 reactions
    CivitAI

    is there no non-turbo non-lightning version anymore?

    you cannot train against lightning. (not tried turbo).

    gogorangers890May 15, 2024

    i think this is intentional, and it sucks

    civitaibxwjp283May 4, 2024· 21 reactions
    CivitAI

    everyone might not prefer "fast" over quality, Cranking out a bunch of unusable images that need to be inpainted and tweaked is inefficient, I would rather wait a few extra seconds for 1 image that follows the prompt and is high quality. so 40 steps over 8 is not a problem for me if it saves me time from further effort to make 1 image better. The Alpha 2 Version is the best model on civitai for accurate high quality realistic images that don't require extra steps like high res and inpainting IMO. Please update it. Thank You For contribution to the AI image community!!!

    dreamsgazer150May 4, 2024· 2 reactions

    can you give example what kind low quality you get, also if you can give me prompts example t check what you talking about

    zerocool22May 28, 2024· 3 reactions

    The guy who think everyone have a 4090 GPU, ppl with medium-low GPU's (most of the ppl) not want to wait forever for a generation, so TURBO, LIGHTING and HYPER is what most ppl use nowadays, deal with it.

    german_aiJun 9, 2024· 1 reaction

    @zerocool22 There are so many GPU Providers, even if you dont have much money

    Crimson_IntellectMay 5, 2024· 3 reactions
    CivitAI

    This is a good model , Thank you

    technerdMay 12, 2024· 10 reactions
    CivitAI

    Example images look great but the downloads are bit a messy, is there actually a (non Turbo/Lightning) 2.1 model? Thanks for the great work!

    JJx3May 14, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    This is a great model. Excited to start using it with my own designs.

    roelfrenkemaMay 22, 2024· 3 reactions
    CivitAI

    Great model. I love it. Using it with Forge and it runs just fine.

    faffoJun 4, 2024· 4 reactions
    CivitAI

    it is just me or euler_a works better then dpm++sde?

    4331997Jun 8, 2024· 8 reactions
    CivitAI

    I want an SDXL version of DS without Lightning or Turbo.

    Light_x02Jun 24, 2024

    I agree with you!

    german_aiJun 9, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    Wasnt there a non Turbo/Lightning Model?`Where is it gone

    CyclopsGERJun 10, 2024

    https://civitai.com/models/112902?modelVersionId=126688
    Its in the tabs (at least Desktop Browser)

    shollimJun 12, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    Is possible to download and install on mac?

    daggonJun 12, 2024· 1 reaction

    yes, no problem using it, but it's a bit slow on intel.

    MikeflowerJun 12, 2024· 5 reactions
    CivitAI

    What about your SD3 model?

    Fynjy888Jun 14, 2024

    @Lykon do you have plans about SD3? Your DreamShaperXL-lighting is the best!

    MelynsJun 14, 2024· 6 reactions
    CivitAI

    This is my go to model for anything that comes to mind, never disappoints.

    Just_AI_Jun 15, 2024

    Hear hear

    443152Jun 15, 2024· 4 reactions
    CivitAI

    the best XL model I've ever used

    Just_AI_Jun 17, 2024

    Same here

    MelynsJun 16, 2024· 5 reactions
    CivitAI

    Advice: Euler A Uniform results in much smoother & highly detailed images with this model

    metin5celik680Jun 20, 2024· 7 reactions
    CivitAI

    bro why did u changed license to non commerical

    GatszowJun 30, 2024

    Probably because his model is based on SDXL Turbo, which is under non commercial license.

    NarzJul 13, 2024

    @Gatszow what about the Lightning version..? i checked like 3 sites and can't tell in simple terms

    JattyJun 23, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    Good

    Light_x02Jun 24, 2024· 14 reactions
    CivitAI

    Too bad you don't make SDXL 1.0 models any more =(

    AnkokuShamonJul 9, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    Why SD Turbo dont work with PoseX? In ControlNet too...

    kapec512Jul 13, 2024· 5 reactions
    CivitAI

    One of the best models so far. I'm not turbo/hyper models fan, but this one handles detailed and photorealistic stuff better than most of highest-rated normal SDXL models and works like a charm with all LORAs.

    NarzJul 13, 2024· 4 reactions
    CivitAI

    do we use the same "Turbo" settings listed here for the Lightning version? why is it mysteriously not mentioned at all? what are the commercial licensing for it since Turbo requires membership?

    laidbackaiJul 17, 2024· 10 reactions
    CivitAI

    DreamShaper XL is absolutely incredible! This model consistently delivers stunning visuals with an unparalleled level of detail. It's quickly become one of my favorites for its exceptional quality and creativity. Highly recommend for anyone looking to elevate their artwork!

    DoglazzzJul 22, 2024· 5 reactions
    CivitAI

    Great model, its really interesting to use:)

    2888290Jul 26, 2024· 6 reactions
    CivitAI

    Great checkpoint and love the images I generated so far with this

    ronaldmikhailp236Jul 31, 2024· 4 reactions
    CivitAI

    The turbo checkpoints also work quite well with DPM++ 2M Turbo, and DPM++ 2M SDE Turbo

    aiclotsAug 1, 2024· 6 reactions
    CivitAI

    Will there be an inpainting version for Dreamshaper XL?

    174499006Aug 12, 2024· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    完美,确实不错

    elyzionz1Aug 14, 2024· 10 reactions
    CivitAI

    Will they release a version of FLUX dreamshaper? ?

    fantaseedAug 14, 2024· 4 reactions
    CivitAI

    @Lykon

    Will there be no further updates to the normal models that are not Turbo or Lighting, and will they end with alpha2 (xl1.0)?

    brunopoor311Aug 18, 2024· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    Excellent model. I liked. But here I have a noob question: Is it possible to use any control net with this model? I got errors every time I try to use it with a control net

    JnxtrvdsAug 24, 2024

    Make sure you are using a XL controlnet model

    PinkywDreamsAug 25, 2024· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    I got RTX4070 Ti super with 16RAM, which one is more suitable for me?

    L3XTCSep 12, 2024

    Any one of them. It's SDLX, not flux.

    PinkywDreamsSep 12, 2024

    @L3XTC the gguf flux is still quite slow for me tho, thx for your reply~!

    innocuousSep 8, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    Oddly difficult to get NSFW imagery from this model, even though it's explicitly mentioned in the description. I've spent hours testing its boundaries and it's constantly fighting against me oddly. Normal DreamShaper seems much better for basic NSFW. Improvements in this field would be great. Otherwise, fantastic model. Captures tons of nuance, depth, and composition that others lack. Prompt following is another area I'd love to see improvements in as well.

    blondjockOct 4, 2024· 1 reaction

    Yea its pretty weird too how some of the models from last year look like they were just made, and I know SD really well, having worked with it since 2016, and no one was generating the quality I see here on the models they are claiming that did, and they are doing all of these massive take downs and merge, its soooo fishy, what are you guys trying to hide? Id love to know, cause everyone knows its all stolen, you guys brag about it on your discords. So why try to hide it?

    KingMushroomBoyOct 7, 2024· 4 reactions

    Stop generating porn on a stupid ai website 🥸 Jesus christ humanity disappoints me SO MUCH.

    PegAIsusOct 18, 2024· 1 reaction

    @KingMushroomBoy What a luck I dont need a website to generate Porn! 🤣🤣

    innocuousDec 7, 2024

    @KingMushroomBoy In your mind NSFW = porn? Porn is extremely easy to make with nearly every model lol. I like this model for it's capabilities within artistic means.

    KingMushroomBoyDec 21, 2024· 1 reaction

    @innocuous Yeah sorry mate. It's a late reply I know but I didn't think of the possibility that you might want to generate gore or something. I mean many album covers and whatnot are like that and it's fine to do that. I just assumed that because 99% of people mean porn by NSFW but I didn't take into account the 1% and so I'm sorry.

    KingMushroomBoyDec 21, 2024· 2 reactions

    @andorason I'm sorry but you're like the rest... A filthy pig who likes to see naked people. Learn to grow up and act like a HUMAN BEING you monster.

    PegAIsusJan 2, 2025· 1 reaction

    @KingMushroomBoy I like you.. your funny! 🤣🤣🤣

    cptnoremacFeb 17, 2025· 2 reactions

    @KingMushroomBoy You do know there's a difference between nudity and porn, right? Most of us are mature enough we can see a naked human body and not get an erection from it. Grow up, kid.

    somemongSep 10, 2024· 4 reactions
    CivitAI

    WARN: HiresFix Denoising Strength >= 0.5 will make the model hallucinate!!! 0,40 is OK

    KelevraQuakensteinSep 11, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    This is one of my favorite checkpoints. It's fast and very versatile.

    I hope you don't mind that I used a few of your beautiful images as templates to familiarize myself with how it works.

    OniChapSep 14, 2024
    CivitAI

    What version of SDXL Lightning does this use: 1,2,4,8 steps?

    31jyi728Oct 6, 2024
    CivitAI

    the best model, I hope there will be a turbo update

    pooria1998Oct 20, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    after messing around with various xl models and also using lightning/pony/flux stuff, I dare to say all dreamshaper (SD1.5 & XL) models are still the best.

    lukeovermindOct 27, 2024· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    I believe you were involved in SD3.5? Are you going to make a Dreamshaper based on that? Please make my 2024 by doing so. lol

    Fynjy888Oct 29, 2024

    dreamshaper on sd 3.5L - will be the best opensource model on earth

    falamoNov 2, 2024
    CivitAI

    i like it

    Juan_SunsetNov 6, 2024
    CivitAI

    why is inpainting not working properly in turbo version?

    ChocolemurNov 11, 2024
    CivitAI

    The problem is Turbo and Lightning don't allow you to use images with most Open Source licenses stuff (like a game) because lot of them allow to sell product or ask for a tip, (like Apache).

    Even if you DON'T sell, the fact somebody could do it at some point ban you to use those checkpoints.

    I don't understand why nobody point these models have this problem

    QH96Jan 8, 2025

    you can remove the accelerator by mixing the model with the accelerator at -100% strength.

    YSCyscMar 11, 2025· 1 reaction

    Another problem is Turbo and Lightning use low cfg settings.

    The Classifier-Free Guidance (CFG) scale controls how closely a prompt should be followed whitch means Turbo and Lightning models dont't follow you prompts.

    AvernusNov 23, 2024
    CivitAI

    i i try to get full body image included feet (wearing high heel) using dreamshaper XL, but none of my prompt success. anyone got any suggestion

    fake4HGXFeb 18, 2025

    add some prompts for feet like "high heels" etc. and increase the canvas size (512 x 1024)

    YellowbootNov 25, 2024· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    I still use this model for upscaling. Fast and efficient.

    7267198Feb 24, 2025· 1 reaction

    It's really good model

    FoxdudeNov 29, 2024· 3 reactions
    CivitAI

    I find it impossible to make anthro male genitalia. Otherwise impressive model. I've not tried female human NSFW but I don't care enough about that to make SD smut about it, if you can believe that.

    purpupMar 7, 2025· 1 reaction

    try chroma flux model on hugging face lib

    goldiegrace99980Sep 13, 2025

    any suggestion for 4gb vram?

    artishticDec 1, 2024· 9 reactions
    CivitAI

    This still might be the best model on Civitai.

    DreznonDec 15, 2024· 2 reactions
    CivitAI

    Im having trouble achieving realistic instead of cartoony. any suggestions on prompting?

    goldiegrace99980Sep 13, 2025

    try realvisXL

    _Soda_Dec 19, 2024· 8 reactions
    CivitAI

    That's a LOT of versions. If i want a no "lightning, superduper fast turbo" model that is not just purely SFW, what should i choose?

    zeomeowApr 5, 2025· 1 reaction

    DreamShaper XL

    fezcatJan 1, 2025· 8 reactions
    CivitAI

    Facial asymmetry occurs in portrait models

    add:symmetrical face

    HollowAbsenceJan 23, 2025· 22 reactions
    CivitAI

    Where is Lykon ? Almost a year without a new model from him :( I was hoping for Flux or SD3.5 version of Dreamshaper! I can't find anything equivalent :(

    HollowAbsenceMar 12, 2025· 1 reaction

    I heard he had been working for stable diffusion since summer 2024 or something like that. so he work must be in stable diffusion 3.5 I suppose.

    jrolomix2576Mar 4, 2025· 6 reactions
    CivitAI

    Love this Checkpoint, Thank you

    YSCyscMar 11, 2025· 7 reactions
    CivitAI

    "I have no idea why anyone would prefer 40 steps over 8, but you have the option"----

    because less steps required low cfg settigs.

    And CFG is how close the follows the prompts

    MescalambaMar 24, 2025· 1 reaction

    You can work around that in ComfyUI, to some extent. But it will probably never follow prompt that well as regular model.

    Same case for everything, including FLUX.

    goldiegrace99980Sep 13, 2025

    @Mescalamba true indeed. now tell me if this dreamshaper XL v2.1 turbo requires a vae or is it already baked??

    MescalambaSep 13, 2025· 1 reaction

    @goldiegrace99980 You could check by trying it. But yes, it has VAE baked in.

    goldiegrace99980Sep 13, 2025

    @Mescalamba yes it has baked vae, just found it. And this is the best model ever

    iRattleMar 12, 2025· 7 reactions
    CivitAI

    Very good checkpoint with amazing visuals, but have one issue with it. I can't avoid blemishes on faces practically on all generated images. Nothing helps, no any negative or positive prompt or LORA. Even on author's example pictures there are blemishes on all realistic faces, small but visible. Maybe someone know how to solve it?

    MrSmith2025Oct 20, 2025

    Just use a refiner and detailer upscale workflow. this should fix it.

    audition6372Apr 27, 2025· 6 reactions
    CivitAI

    dream shaper xl是我在众多XL模型中首次上手并且还是最喜欢的一款。这个模型能以较低的prompt门槛和device门槛轻松跑出质量极高的图像,泛化性也很高。完美诠释了C端的实用主义思想,隔壁某小马模型我到现在都没玩明白...。感谢作者在该领域的辛勤付出,非常感谢你们!

    TsinghanApr 27, 2025· 5 reactions
    CivitAI

    For 2.1Turbo, do I need VAE model separately? Or is it baked in the checkpoint already?

    goldiegrace99980Sep 13, 2025

    It has baked VAE, no need of a separate Vae

    goldiegrace99980Sep 13, 2025

    Just found out it has baked vae

    SyntheticScenesMay 3, 2025· 5 reactions
    CivitAI

    How to avoid deformed hands and feet?

    tazhpaJun 8, 2025· 1 reaction

    I suggest you use so called safe resolutions when you create with SDXL. As SDXL is one megapixel resolution architecture, I recommend using one of these dimensions as your canvas: 1024x1024, 1152x896 or 1344x768. Also 1152x768 works fine, if you want to create a 15x10cm postcard/photo, for example. If you try to create a larger than one megapixel canvas, you often get malformed or conjoined heads, hands and other stuff, as SDXL is trying to create more than one image into one canvas area.

    tazhpaJun 8, 2025· 3 reactions

    And if you want a bigger image than, say, 1344x768, then you seed hunt images so long that you get an image you really like, take its seed number, and create a highres.fix version of it. Using a ESRGAN_4X upscaler with denoise value of 0.25 and an upscale multiplier of 2.85x, you get a 4K image. It still has that one megapixel worth of detail, but it tricks the viewer really well into thinking it is a 4K image. I would not recommend other upscaling methods, as they are all worse than highres.fix, unless you lack GPU muscle and you have to use a lighter upscaling method like Upscayl or similar.

    JabGalJul 14, 2025· 3 reactions

    Using more modern and better trained models in anatomy and NSFW, such as EventHorizon XL or GonzaLomo

    SimplerMemoirsJun 5, 2025· 11 reactions
    CivitAI

    Somebody else seems to be trying to pass this model off as their own. I've flagged it for moderator review. See: https://civitai.com/models/1651967/dreamshaperxl?modelVersionId=1869836

    DanBrodyJun 17, 2025

    Looks like it's been taken down.

    artishticAug 22, 2025· 9 reactions
    CivitAI

    With everything taken into account, this is still the best model to date on the site

    NitricAcid09Aug 29, 2025

    What do you think of Dreamshaper XL 2.1 vs Dreamshaper 8?

    artishticAug 30, 2025· 1 reaction

    @NitrousOxide9 I prefer Dreamshaper XL 2.1 but back when I used Dreamshaper 8, I think I felt about it like I do about XL when 1.5 was the only base model everyone was using. The Dreamshaper models seem to have high aesthetic capabilities

    HollowAbsenceOct 29, 2025· 6 reactions
    CivitAI

    What happened to the Turbo model ? Only Lightning left.

    AIBOZONov 16, 2025
    CivitAI

    A quite impressive model, you can get top results in just 4 steps 🤯🤯🤯

    VernamonJan 7, 2026· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    Great model for starting out especially when trying to create my Original character I made decades ago.

    RenkimaJan 14, 2026
    CivitAI

    Just a gorgeous model! High quality with very high generation speed.

    ferrrett33Feb 25, 2026
    CivitAI

    This was a legend on SD1.5 now the page is incomprehensible and I don't even know where a regular version might exist, or which is Turbo even?

    rainfallbrillianceMar 12, 2026
    CivitAI

    This looks so amazing. Can anyone please recommend something similar for Illustrious??

    RussianMan_BRUTALApr 5, 2026
    CivitAI

    Can you tell me why the images are blurry and have red-orange hallucinations?

    Checkpoint
    SDXL Lightning

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    CivitAI
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    Created
    2/21/2024
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