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    Natural Sin Final and last of epiCRealism

    Since SDXL is right around the corner, let's say it is the final version for now since I put a lot effort into it and probably cannot do much more.

    I tried to refine the understanding of the Prompts, Hands and of course the Realism.
    Let's see what you guys can do with it.

    Thanks to @drawaline for the in-depth review, so i'd like to give some advices to use this model.
    [expand to see Advices]

    Advices

    • use simple prompts

    • no need to use keywords like "masterpiece, best quality, 8k, intricate, high detail" or "(extremely detailed face), (extremely detailed hands), (extremely detailed hair)" since it doesn't produce appreciable change

    • use simple negatives or small negative embeddings. gives most realistic look (check samples to get an idea of negatives i used)

    • add "asian, chinese" to negative if you're looking for ethnicities other than Asian

    • Light, shadows, and details are excellent without extra keywords

    • If you're looking for a natural effect, avoid "cinematic"

    • avoid using "1girl" since it pushes things to render/anime style

    • to much description of the face will turn out bad mostly

    • for a more fantasy like output use 2M Karras Sampler

    • no extra noise-offset needed, but u can if you like to šŸ˜‰

    How to use?

    Prompt: simple explanation of the image (try first without extra keywords)
    Negative: "cartoon, painting, illustration, (worst quality, low quality, normal quality:2)"
    Steps: >20 (if image has errors or artefacts use higher Steps)
    CFG Scale: 5 (higher config scale can lose realism, depends on prompt, sampler and Steps)
    Sampler: Any Sampler (SDE, DPM-Sampler will result in more realism)
    Size: 512x768 or 768x512
    Hires upscaler: 4x_NMKD-Superscale-SP_178000_G (Denoising: 0.35, Upscale: 2x)

    Useful Extensions

    !After Detailer | ControlNet | Agent Scheduler | Ultimate SD Upscale

    ⁉ No VAE needed but it is better to use one for more vibrant colors

    ⭐ Feel free to leave Reviews and Samples - and always have fun creating ā¤

    Description

    can it get any better? Since i'm low on time probably you can test it out. I would appreciate that.

    FAQ

    Comments (14)

    65473Jul 27, 2023Ā· 6 reactions
    CivitAI

    I'm confused, it says 3.5 is 10 days older but V3 is the most current. Civitai website bug?

    epinikion
    Author
    Jul 27, 2023Ā· 2 reactions

    I planned to update that model, but had to delete the new version since it doesnā€˜t met my expectations after further testing. I’m short on time, so probably we will see a new version in the next days. Sorry for the confusion.

    BubbleWrap44Jul 27, 2023Ā· 4 reactions
    CivitAI

    Sorry if mistaken, but Civitai notification says there's a new version for this model: X, but can't seem to find it. Is there a link? Thanks

    epinikion
    Author
    Jul 27, 2023Ā· 8 reactions

    I planned to update that model, but had to delete the new version since it doesnā€˜t met my expectations after further testing. I’m short on time, so probably we will see a new version in the next days. Sorry for the confusion.

    BubbleWrap44Jul 27, 2023

    @epinikionĀ Thanks, can't wait to test the new version!

    Mech4nimaLJul 27, 2023

    @epinikionĀ is X for XL ?

    epinikion
    Author
    Jul 27, 2023Ā· 2 reactions

    @mech4nimalĀ No it should be the last, but probably i should simply name it V4 :D

    TigraJul 27, 2023Ā· 1 reaction

    @epinikionĀ Fuck! im hyped

    zx96Jul 28, 2023

    @epinikionĀ we can't wait!

    epinikion
    Author
    Jul 28, 2023Ā· 1 reaction

    @TigraĀ @zx96Ā Don't stay too hyped šŸ™ˆ

    zx96Jul 28, 2023Ā· 1 reaction

    @epinikionĀ your work is absolutely awesome, the excitement arises!

    phillabaule359Jul 27, 2023Ā· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    Hi, what is the difference between v3 and ... V3 "ColorFix" ?

    epinikion
    Author
    Jul 27, 2023

    Watch version info. It has more color saturation

    plkJul 28, 2023Ā· 5 reactions
    CivitAI

    Best model on the site, and I don't say that lightly. Even if it can't do everything I want, I can take another model to generate a base image and either controlnet or img2img it with this model and get great results. So it may not be able to prompt everything you want exactly how you want it, but once you give it a reference, the image quality is better than anything else, especially with latent upscaling. I find the best samplers for this model are either Euler A or DPM++ SDE Karras, and the more steps the better. 20 steps is fine, but 50+ adds a lot of finer details.

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    SD 1.5

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    Created
    7/26/2023
    Updated
    10/6/2025
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