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    Natural Sin Final and last of epiCRealism

    Since SDXL is right around the corner, let's say it is the final version for now since I put a lot effort into it and probably cannot do much more.

    I tried to refine the understanding of the Prompts, Hands and of course the Realism.
    Let's see what you guys can do with it.

    Thanks to @drawaline for the in-depth review, so i'd like to give some advices to use this model.
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    Advices

    • use simple prompts

    • no need to use keywords like "masterpiece, best quality, 8k, intricate, high detail" or "(extremely detailed face), (extremely detailed hands), (extremely detailed hair)" since it doesn't produce appreciable change

    • use simple negatives or small negative embeddings. gives most realistic look (check samples to get an idea of negatives i used)

    • add "asian, chinese" to negative if you're looking for ethnicities other than Asian

    • Light, shadows, and details are excellent without extra keywords

    • If you're looking for a natural effect, avoid "cinematic"

    • avoid using "1girl" since it pushes things to render/anime style

    • to much description of the face will turn out bad mostly

    • for a more fantasy like output use 2M Karras Sampler

    • no extra noise-offset needed, but u can if you like to šŸ˜‰

    How to use?

    Prompt: simple explanation of the image (try first without extra keywords)
    Negative: "cartoon, painting, illustration, (worst quality, low quality, normal quality:2)"
    Steps: >20 (if image has errors or artefacts use higher Steps)
    CFG Scale: 5 (higher config scale can lose realism, depends on prompt, sampler and Steps)
    Sampler: Any Sampler (SDE, DPM-Sampler will result in more realism)
    Size: 512x768 or 768x512
    Hires upscaler: 4x_NMKD-Superscale-SP_178000_G (Denoising: 0.35, Upscale: 2x)

    Useful Extensions

    !After Detailer | ControlNet | Agent Scheduler | Ultimate SD Upscale

    ⁉ No VAE needed but it is better to use one for more vibrant colors

    ⭐ Feel free to leave Reviews and Samples - and always have fun creating ā¤

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    Comments (17)

    247474Mar 28, 2023Ā· 3 reactions
    CivitAI

    I'm stick with hyperphotogodess for a while because it's really good. Now I'm happy to see you create this. Would you consider give these models more natural appearance? Like respect the gravity if you know what I'm talking about šŸ˜

    epinikion
    Author
    Mar 28, 2023Ā· 1 reaction

    I will see what I can do about it :D

    icingqueenMay 13, 2023

    why

    chzbroMar 28, 2023
    CivitAI

    I've been trying out hyperphotogodess and really liking it. When you say this one doesn't require VAE, do you mean there's one baked in or that it was trained to work without one?

    epinikion
    Author
    Mar 29, 2023Ā· 2 reactions

    It is trained to work without VAE

    chzbroMar 29, 2023

    @epinikionĀ Thanks!

    BinaryBottleBakeApr 17, 2023

    @epinikionĀ is there any negatives if you just leave the default Vae on then?

    epinikion
    Author
    Apr 18, 2023

    @hellomattieoĀ Nope

    ImAbbieKittenMar 29, 2023Ā· 5 reactions
    CivitAI

    This model is incredible! One of my favorites already. Will there be an inpainting model too?

    epinikion
    Author
    Mar 29, 2023

    If one is needed I can add one :)

    epinikion
    Author
    Mar 30, 2023Ā· 3 reactions

    @ImAbbieKitten uploaded, would be kind if u could test that one out :)

    DarkAgentMar 29, 2023Ā· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    any chance for a full version un-pruned?

    epinikion
    Author
    Mar 29, 2023Ā· 1 reaction

    Nah

    SayrynMar 30, 2023Ā· 1 reaction

    Sorry if this is a stupid question, what's the difference between the pruned and unpruned versions, besides the file size of course ♄

    potato204Apr 23, 2023Ā· 1 reaction

    @SayrynĀ To generate images, there is no difference in terms of quality between the 2 versions, thus pruned is better since it takes less storage. For merging models (to create you own models) then the full models are required

    epinikion
    Author
    Apr 23, 2023Ā· 2 reactions

    @SayrynĀ @potato204Ā you also can merge pruned models, the full models have slightly more information but not worth the filesize

    SayrynApr 24, 2023

    @potato204Ā @epinikionĀ Awesome! Thanks for explaining ♄