Natural Sin Final and last of epiCRealism
Since SDXL is right around the corner, let's say it is the final version for now since I put a lot effort into it and probably cannot do much more.
I tried to refine the understanding of the Prompts, Hands and of course the Realism.
Let's see what you guys can do with it.
Thanks to @drawaline for the in-depth review, so i'd like to give some advices to use this model.
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Advices
use simple prompts
no need to use keywords like "masterpiece, best quality, 8k, intricate, high detail" or "(extremely detailed face), (extremely detailed hands), (extremely detailed hair)" since it doesn't produce appreciable change
use simple negatives or small negative embeddings. gives most realistic look (check samples to get an idea of negatives i used)
add "asian, chinese" to negative if you're looking for ethnicities other than Asian
Light, shadows, and details are excellent without extra keywords
If you're looking for a natural effect, avoid "cinematic"
avoid using "1girl" since it pushes things to render/anime style
to much description of the face will turn out bad mostly
for a more fantasy like output use 2M Karras Sampler
no extra noise-offset needed, but u can if you like to š
How to use?
Prompt: simple explanation of the image (try first without extra keywords)
Negative: "cartoon, painting, illustration, (worst quality, low quality, normal quality:2)"
Steps: >20 (if image has errors or artefacts use higher Steps)
CFG Scale: 5 (higher config scale can lose realism, depends on prompt, sampler and Steps)
Sampler: Any Sampler (SDE, DPM-Sampler will result in more realism)
Size: 512x768 or 768x512
Hires upscaler: 4x_NMKD-Superscale-SP_178000_G (Denoising: 0.35, Upscale: 2x)
Useful Extensions
!After Detailer | ControlNet | Agent Scheduler | Ultimate SD Upscale
ā No VAE needed but it is better to use one for more vibrant colors
ā Feel free to leave Reviews and Samples - and always have fun creating ā¤
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I'm stick with hyperphotogodess for a while because it's really good. Now I'm happy to see you create this. Would you consider give these models more natural appearance? Like respect the gravity if you know what I'm talking about š
I will see what I can do about it :D
why
I've been trying out hyperphotogodess and really liking it. When you say this one doesn't require VAE, do you mean there's one baked in or that it was trained to work without one?
It is trained to work without VAE
@epinikionĀ Thanks!
@epinikionĀ is there any negatives if you just leave the default Vae on then?
@hellomattieoĀ Nope
This model is incredible! One of my favorites already. Will there be an inpainting model too?
any chance for a full version un-pruned?
Nah
Sorry if this is a stupid question, what's the difference between the pruned and unpruned versions, besides the file size of course ā„
@SayrynĀ To generate images, there is no difference in terms of quality between the 2 versions, thus pruned is better since it takes less storage. For merging models (to create you own models) then the full models are required
@SayrynĀ @potato204Ā you also can merge pruned models, the full models have slightly more information but not worth the filesize
@potato204Ā @epinikionĀ Awesome! Thanks for explaining ā„









