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    Welcome to epiCPhotoGasm

    This Model is highly tuned for Photorealism with the tiniest amount of exessive prompting needed to shine.
    All Showcase images are generated without Negatives (V1) to show what is possible on the bare prompt.

    Whats special?

    The model has highly knowledge of what a photo is, so if u promt u can avoid using photo. If the prompt tends to be fantasy like the model will turn away from photo and u have to tweak by prompting and/or negatives.

    The model can do various ethnicities well, so try them out.

    Age is also well trained and known by the model, so try them out too.

    How to use

    • use simple prompts without "fake" enhancers like "masterpiece, photorealistic, 4k, 8k, super realistic, realism" etc.

    • don't use a ton of negative embeddings, focus on few tokens or single embeddings

    • you can still use atmospheric enhances like "cinematic, dark, moody light" etc.

    • start sampling at 20 Steps

    • no extra noise-offset needed

    Additional Ressources

    Style Negatives: colorful Photo | soft Photo

    Useful Extensions

    !After Detailer | ControlNet | Agent Scheduler | Ultimate SD Upscale

    ⭐ Feel free to leave Reviews and Samples - and always have fun creating ❤

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    Comments (38)

    nickfli121Aug 22, 2023· 9 reactions
    CivitAI

    Looks like another great model from your stable, and people would do well to take your prompting advice for any recent model. Even today with excellent models available, most of the text in the typical prompt is either unnecessary due to better models, or never did anything anyway. Far too much of copying of bad prompts and then spreading a probably even worse prompt, rather than starting from nothing.

    epinikion
    Author
    Aug 22, 2023· 1 reaction

    That 👆

    aashiAug 22, 2023
    CivitAI

    Is it the same as natural sin one on epicRealism?

    epinikion
    Author
    Aug 22, 2023

    Nope, it is a new breed which turns out to be more different and flexible

    schschAug 22, 2023

    I can be very wrong, but I noticed the NaturalSin released on day 19 is 'a whooping' life-changer model. I was struggling to get high quality on some Loras, this one created real skin in a way I can't explain. Perhaps it was adapted/changed due to TOS or something?

    epinikion
    Author
    Aug 22, 2023· 3 reactions

    @schsch i just removed it since i didn`t think it is was used pretty much. But i can republish it on epiCRealism if u mind sharing is worthable. But maybe u get same results here.

    joge25Aug 22, 2023

    @epinikion would be great to have a access to the sin model.

    epinikion
    Author
    Aug 22, 2023· 3 reactions

    @joge25 Okay I republished it on the epiCRealism page. 🫡

    vitokeorlini225Aug 22, 2023· 4 reactions

    @epinikion bro you must be high the naturalSin is on a whole other level, its only fault is that it's too darn realistic lol just give it time when people are tired of bokeh and plastic generated on every single sdxl

    fantaseedAug 22, 2023
    CivitAI

    Thanks for the great model. I think you are a great creator, so please let me know.

    At the moment, do you think it's impossible to create a model that can draw accurate hands and toes even after a lot of training, as long as it's based on SD[1.5,2.1,XL]?

    wang89xAug 22, 2023
    CivitAI

    Love your stuff. If you can please upload an inpainting version I will love you even more lol.

    epinikion
    Author
    Aug 22, 2023· 1 reaction

    How could i forget the inpainting guys. Dinner is served.

    wang89xAug 22, 2023· 2 reactions

    @epinikion legend!

    PinkmantherAug 22, 2023· 3 reactions
    CivitAI

    Another amazing model, thanks so much for all your hard work! Really loving the unique feel of this one.

    7727Aug 22, 2023· 19 reactions
    CivitAI

    it's nice knowing other people out there understand that all of those fake prompt words aren't really doing much for people. It's so much more efficient to keep it simple and let the model do it's part.

    Usually when people have problems with limbs, fingers, eyes, etc, it's just because people are overcomplicating their prompt and exceeding vector limits, and then the model has no idea whats going on anymore.

    Also, most of those words aren't even in photography model databases, a lot of those came from anime models that pulled that data from danborru tags, so they're mostly irrelevant on the photo side of things.

    Focus on words you'd use as if you were a real art director, an art director wouldn't show up to set and say "Hey lets make this shoot lighting look MASTERPIECE, BEST QUALITY, 4K, ABSURDRES"

    epinikion
    Author
    Aug 22, 2023· 1 reaction

    Haha well explained! That’s how it is. And you got the point that the hands are so much more improved by not flodding with hand focused tokens. SD never saw bad hands except Someone trained a Lora for it, but it is also bad at counting. But the hitrate will improve on less tokens.

    1345536Aug 23, 2023

    I tried to add 'logo' into negative prompts, but logo keeps coming out anyway, lol. I increased the weight to (logo:3), but logos just become more noisy and blur, and still exist :(

    epinikion
    Author
    Aug 23, 2023

    @sgmgong28901119 try using text or signature

    vitokeorlini225Aug 23, 2023

    wifey material

    vitokeorlini225Aug 22, 2023· 3 reactions
    CivitAI

    this guy don't miss

    VHONEAug 22, 2023· 1 reaction
    CivitAI

    I've been trying out almost every 'realistic' model i could find, but for me personally your models are great! Especially EpiCRealism V5 and now epiCPhotoGasm: But i still need to add a (big) set of negative prompts, and a decent set of positive prompts, without getting disformaties (when prompting more than just: a beautiful women...).

    But I use DiffusionBee on a Macbook M1 instead of for example Easy Diffusion. That could be the bottleneck ;-) but if anybody experiences the same problems keep adding the negative prompts,

    1345536Aug 23, 2023· 1 reaction

    actually I think natural Sin is better than photogasm...sometimes the photogasm bodies are too thin and skin details not as good as Sin

    epinikion
    Author
    Aug 23, 2023

    @sgmgong28901119 i will keep that in mind

    1345536Aug 28, 2023· 1 reaction

    @epinikion I see....seems thin body and lack of details happens for 'chinese' tag, others are fine. And I always add 'chinese' tag to postive prompt beacuse of my preference XD

    epinikion
    Author
    Aug 28, 2023

    @sgmgong28901119Yeah it is trained highly on western Characters 🙈

    tulantuna1Aug 23, 2023
    CivitAI

    Wow looks good. Would u upload the checkpoint and negative to tensor.art? I’m not with my machine these few days 😱

    aashiAug 23, 2023· 3 reactions
    CivitAI

    Is vae embedded?

    MrNoirAug 23, 2023· 3 reactions
    CivitAI

    bro you're the best, will you do an sdxl version? this is the most realistic model ive found

    thestanmanAug 23, 2023· 3 reactions
    CivitAI

    This checkpoint is just absolutely insane...amazing job

    epinikion
    Author
    Aug 23, 2023

    Thank you!

    CyclopsGERAug 26, 2023· 4 reactions
    CivitAI

    Wow...this model is amazing! Using it without any negative prompt...

    juggyverseAug 26, 2023· 10 reactions
    CivitAI

    wow...who needs sdxl. this is amazing

    ZojixAug 29, 2023· 5 reactions
    CivitAI

    Really good BUT :

    - A lot of lora's seems to not working properly with this checkpoint ( especially Lora model of real people ) even with just a few prompts and also the extension ADETAILER seems to not working :(

    N3kor0Aug 30, 2023
    CivitAI

    the faces and everything all good but only producing the same body type and breast size

    DreamscapeYTAug 31, 2023· 11 reactions
    CivitAI

    With the RC1 and V5, it was bit confusing, so to help you choose, I made a full review here of photogasm with image comparison. If you want to use on colab, check in that video too.

    151451Sep 3, 2023
    CivitAI

    I'm finding this model really good for doing img2img passes on interesting images made with other models.

    schschSep 11, 2023

    In other words, it's being one of my favorites 'refiner' in IMG2IMG, as I create dozens in 'base' (no SDXL) txt2img at 512x512, 512x680 or 680x512 with the same Epic model or other realistic ones like runDiffusionFX, photonV1 or cyberRealistic 33

    AnandaSep 8, 2023· 4 reactions
    CivitAI

    The best real photo model together with epiCRealism. No other realistic model comes even close.